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Post 1

Boots

Hi Pin
Good to see you back. Nice well structured arguement against yourself! It's quite a toughy this one. Thought you might appreciate the following quote sent to me last week by one of the marchers.

"Naturally the common people don't want war--neither in Russia, nor in
England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after
all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is
always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy,
or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.
Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the
leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being
attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing
the country to danger. It works the same in any country." --Herman Goering

Makes you think eh
Boots


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Post 2

Boots

ps loved the rugby link seamless! Nice one.


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Post 3

Boots

Pin I know once posted to site no copyright exists but have taken the liberty of posting part of your superb article to a forum that genuinly cares about the issue (full credit given of course, plus a link to the whole article)
http://theoriginalh.com/confab/viewtopic.php?t=8.
Hope you're not cross (worried smiley...still can't get the hang of them) but I feel your excellent article deserves as wide an audience as can be achieved.
Take care
Boots


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Post 4

Pinniped


Hi Boots
Thanks, and of course I'm delighted if the audience gets wider.
Sorry I missed this at first. Reason : you posted to the Post version, but I wasn't linked to that, because others submitted it. I didn't even know I was in the Post this week till this (Saturday) morning. Moral : check your Space and link to everything that's mysteriously appeared in your Entries, I guess.
I'll go check out this link now, but the Goering quote is neat. There isn't any black or white on this issue. As I said to Ben, it was written first and foremost to remind myself in future what I once thought.
I do a lot of that. Maybe one day, when I'm a famous writer, the diaries will be interesting. But a lot of my former opinion is embarrassing, and some of it is contemptible.
Maybe I should have firmer and more consistent personal convictions. Or maybe that way dogma lies.
You ever read Huxley's "Point Counterpoint". Mark Rampion? That's the character I'd love to be.
Pin


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Post 5

Boots

When you are a famous writer, I expect an invite to the book launch. Probably is the answer to the Huxley question, but as you know am very old dog with many lives and fading memory. Think you will get on well with the originalh who is much younger, computer literate, reads Huxley avidly and is also a Pin fan, hence the link to the site.
Will go back and reread the Huxley.
Take care
Boots


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Post 6

Pinniped


Hey Boots

Now you're doing it. I posted about the (very fine) School Run, finding it in your Entries, but it doesn't show in your Convos because you're not linked!
(Feedback this way will be entirely separate from the AWW thread, yeah, you knew that? You have to click the message at the bottom about linking to Convos about an Entry, even when it's your OWN Entry, OK? It's not automatic. Should be, but isn't. Still catches me all the time)
Anyway, go hunt.

And you've got me intrigued now, trying to work out who you are, who the original is.
* off fishing *


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Post 7

Boots

tee hee


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Post 8

Post Team

Apologies Pin smiley - sadface

I assumed, as agcBen put your article forward and you and she have been chatting elsewhere, that you knew and approved us using it.

I would have emailed you for confirmation, but seem to have lost your address since the last time you submitted something to us.

Next time I'll make sure I drop by your page. smiley - ok

shazz smiley - thepost


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Post 9

Boots

You have been seen but now you're not listening. You haven't activated your convo (getting the hang of this).
Take care
Boots


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Post 10

Pinniped


I am too listening. The Seal Never Sleeps. Well...not more than sixteen hours a day, anyhow.

I am no nearer solving the mystery. Originalh, huh? Look, I need a few clues, OK?

First of all, I thought you might be Lion. Now I'm rather sure you're not Lion, based on the style of your early Post stuff. Lion's style is very characteristic.

But originalh might be Lion? That would be something smiley - grovel, but maybe I'm on the wrong tack entirely.

There's a deja-lu about all of this, though. You seem to know me. Or maybe the Weddell. A couple of ideas occur to me. One you would need to be a published novelist already. The other you would need to be a male in disguise. In either case, you'd have been at Oxford at the end of the 70s. (Doubt you're that old, though, come to think of it).

One clue definitely required. Is there a riddle here to solve. You've got to put me out of misery on that one.

Pinsmiley - erm
(Oh yeah, the Letter to Publishers is fantastic too. You just have to stay around and write more. You light up this place. A few more like you Boots, and we can start a fire. Honestly)


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Post 11

Boots

Whoops seem to have misled you rather badly. The originalh is the person I sent your article to. He/she (you have to do a little work) runs that forum. she/she has also posted to h2g2 but will not even let moi (without any kind of doubt his oldest friend) know what he/he writes under. It (much quicker to type) is not a wannabee writer just a person with similar philosophies to yourself, who, when it chooses, happens to also write quite well. It also reads Huxley.
No am not the Lion (where can I find material? sounds interesting) have only ever posted under useless hound ( don't think I'm capable of working out my newly discovered 'convos'in more than one identity...have you forgotton this is the smilie challenged researcher)
Don't think I know either you or Weddell, but hopefully will meet one day at our book launches. Didn't 'do' Oxford (that explains my amazing spelling prowess) Well past 'the birth' by the late seventies. Old actually very old Thesp in a previous life remember. Just the sort of person who strikes up conversations with anyone. I call this trait a curious and inquisitive mind, my partner disparagingly refers to it as nosey.
No haven't been published but have had a few radio plays produced on foreign shores. Have a full time day job that I hope to relegate to a dim and fond memory once I am the other famous author spawned by h2g2.
Have scribbled all my life...old habits are hard to break, so finding h2g2 was like finding an undiscovered bottle of wine stuffed in the back of the shoe cupboard on a friday night when the off licence had closed. delicious.
Will certainly keep writing, but as I actually get paid for the day job have to put a little effort into that and occaisionally (that one gets me every time and I so can't be a***d to run spell check) I try and hone the rest of the drivel I write for eventual publication.
Hope that's clues enough.
Take care
Boots.
PS WHY would I know you if I had been published? Bizarre. My turn for a clue.


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Post 12

Pinniped


Yep, the wrong end of the stick. A relief, actually. I was maybe getting a bit paranoid back there.

Lion is a RL friend (once a see-every day friend, now living far away) who first put me onto h2g2. A couple of my very early Entries are heavily based on her ideas. Not wholly plagiarised, because all the words were mine and because she quite happily offered the suggestions to start me off. The End-of-the-Pier-Revue, for example, was her joke, as was the Pingu/Rambo thing. She once sent me something saying I was a LIterary ONanist (my capitals), so I wrote her into the Pier saga as Lion, the "youthful" Pinniped's sea-lion guardian. The character is a fair-ish parody of the real person - vain, prone to intellectual snobbery, interfering but ultimately kind and protective to a fault.

It's all there in my early stuff, if you really want to know. But it makes me cringe a bit now, some of it.

Just like originalh for you (uncanny this bit) she was/is a Researcher herself, but like you I've never managed to identify her. If originalh is female, early 40s, then just maybe we should run a check - but I doubt it now.

The published writer is just another old friend with (possible) stylistic similarities. No known h2g2 allegiance, but fairly regularly talks with the Weddell, so hints could have been dropped. The home area would have been about right, if the Surrey hint from the School Run is valid; the Yummy Mummy sentiments would have been very plausible.

The other guy I referred to, coincidentally, has had radio plays performed on the BBC (far from his best stuff, I might add). But he's a he.

Just goes to show, what a small world it isn't.

Pinsmiley - hug


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Post 13

Boots

Well that's a mercy anyhow! The originalh is definitely male (so not the stalker!)and thought your paranoia vastly amusing. he may even be persuaded to post to you. He is also Moby Dick (hence my being his oldest friend.)
It's been fun though and I will catch up on your earlies. keep writing you are really seriously good. If you wrote the last piece after reading mine, you are not only seriously good, you are horrifically fast too. Hate you. Also need a thesaurus to understand all the correctly spelt long words you use. I knew I should have gone to Oxford...regretably not nearly clever enough!
Take care
Boots


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Post 14

Pinniped


Not that fast. Ben set me a little challenge on Tuesday evening, to write a themed piece. Her wording I forget, but I interpreted it as "kids appear vile except to their parents".
I wrote it Wednesday morning on a train, tuned it a bit and then posted it this morning.
I'm not sure I like it though. Making the narrator the villain was an idea that came late, when I found out it was coming out smug and misanthropical anywaysmiley - erm
Moby Dick, yeah, not sure I've had the pleasure. Lurking is in order.
I didn't actually say I was at Oxford, did I? OK, so I was. I wish I could have my time there again, now that I'm ready for it.
Let's be vain. We're both seriously good. A few more like us, and this place will reach critical mass, then it will really be something. Let's make a pact to keep at it, and to keep laying on the mutual appreciation with a trowelsmiley - winkeye
Big words? That's the SYWM for you. Nothing to do with me...smiley - whistle

Pinsmiley - smiley


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Post 15

Boots

Lurking wrong, reading is the answer the clues are already scattered. Derrr. What in God's name is SYWM? This is a pre clanger child...amend contemporary Bill and Ben child... remember!

(Discovered the return button...must play again.)

Actually quite liked the big bad uncle posture...which, alas, Hugh Grant fails to convey with such enjoyed loathing as the author. I bet Alan Rickman would play him beautifully (Sherwood forest style).
Dollops of ego soothing admirations flowing across cyberspace...yes I do have to work on Sindays as well.
Take care
Boots


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Post 16

Pinniped


The SYWM, who has clear Big Bad Uncle overtones himself, first appeared in A654608, if you're inquisitive. There is an association with childrens' TV characters, and with Pingu in particular, but it's a bit tenuous.
Alan Rickman is certainly a favourite, but that uncle-guy doesn't read like that to me. Definitely a cynical saddo. Richard Wilson (he was Victor Meldrew, wasn't he?) perhaps.
I feel another Entry coming on. This one'll be better.
Don't you go working too hard on Sundays, now.
Pinsmiley - smiley


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Post 17

Boots

Just in for a quick browse before second work detail. Ravager (my Weddell) is poorly, so have to do the Fred Nightingale routine later...I am so bad at it, but SYWM gave me an idea. Off to Mac Donalds for one of their chocolate lard shakes, oh and you're right Meldrew is perfect...The Sheriff of Nottingham a la Rickman would be brutal though!
Take care
Boots


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