A Conversation for The History of Dowsing

A881345 - THE HISTORY OF DOWSING

Post 21

St Romani Angel Guardian of Crystals. Minister of Coffee now on the decaff!!

the basic format was there it had just been changed around a bit in the final version.

since FM appears to go have gone offline would you take a look at the alterations I've done for me please before I go offline too.

romi


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Post 22

Zarquon's Singing Fish!

Hi Romi,

I don't think this sentence works very well:

'Thanks to the superstitious nonsense, perpetrated by the Christian Church, dying a death, many scientists made a study of the phenomenon and as such we have a bank of information today that gives us the information that we knew all the time - Dowsing Works!'.

Who or what is dying a death. And what is the superstitious nonsense?

I think the sentence needs to be reworded so that it is clearer.

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Post 23

St Romani Angel Guardian of Crystals. Minister of Coffee now on the decaff!!

ok Z i see what you mean

by superstitious nonsense I meant that which the Christian Church had brought about by their witching laws at one time they regarded dowsing as a form of witchcraft & it is that nonsense that has died a death.

any ideas on how to reword it would be welcome, but also on rereading that sentence I think maybe it could be deleted altogether what do you think ?

romi


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Post 24

Zarquon's Singing Fish!

Having read the entry again, it looks as though you've already taken that sentence out, Romi.

As a sort of answer to FM talking about 'science' being unable to prove that dowsing works, I would think that the we;;-known phenomenon of 'scientists' influencing the experiments is likely to be at work, here. I remember when I was doing research into my firewalking , when a firewalker was subject to 'scientific scrutiny', he failed to do what he was usually capable of doing and came to the conclusion that it was the overwhelmingly negative attitudes of the 'scientists' surrounding him. As we're talking subtle energies here, it makes it all the more likely.

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Post 25

Felonious Monk - h2g2s very own Bogeyman

But if it's that fragile, and that susceptible to the disturbing influence of being observed, then does it exist in the first place? Surely we're not talking about Heisenberg's Uncertainty principle here: dowsing is *claimed* to produce reproducible results: until some tries to quantify how reproducible. Then it seems to evaporate. Occam's Razor would seem to suggest that we adopt the simple viewpoint:perhaps the effect doesn't exist in the first place.


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Post 26

St Romani Angel Guardian of Crystals. Minister of Coffee now on the decaff!!

hi Z

no I've not deleted it smiley - weird if its not there now..........I'll take a look in a mo

i agree with what you say bout the firewalker if negative energies are there in multiples yes they can affect things like you mentioned

romi


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Post 27

St Romani Angel Guardian of Crystals. Minister of Coffee now on the decaff!!

its still there maybe if i rewrote it the way i explained it to you but deleted the bit about the scientists would work better

what do you think ?

romi


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Post 28

St Romani Angel Guardian of Crystals. Minister of Coffee now on the decaff!!

FM a dowser works on subtle positive energies so if they are surrounded by negative energies of say several cynics it can affect the result because the dowser can also pick up on the negative energies.

romi


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Post 29

Zarquon's Singing Fish!

It seems to work better now, romi! smiley - smiley

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Post 30

St Romani Angel Guardian of Crystals. Minister of Coffee now on the decaff!!

thanks Z

I've reworded it now so I think it makes better sense

romi


A881345 - The History Of Dowsing

Post 31

Pimms

Hi St Romani smiley - smiley

Interesting entry.

I agree with many of the suggestions FM made. I was disappointed by the phrasing of some parts, which were both definite and fuzzy at the same time. Definite, in that several places stated things along the lines of 'They say this is/was the case', but annoyingly fuzzy when it comes to who 'they' were, when or where they said it.

In a history I'd like to see more dates and verifiable points being made than unsubstantiated assertions. If this means you'll have to re-read your sources to tie down your recollections exactly I think it needs to be done to be fit for the EG.

You obviously have sources and other entries this one could link to. It would be worthwhile listing them at the end of the entry in a references section so that interested researchers could look them up. The sub-ed may reformat this last section, but will need to know the information - particularly the reference to your 'how to dowse' entry.

Pimms smiley - mistletoe


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Post 32

Felonious Monk - h2g2s very own Bogeyman

Couldn't agree with you more, Pimms. There is a problem with a lot of these 'sources' in that they tend to make unsubstantiated claims which wither way in the hard light of scepticism.

As a general point, directed to everyone who wants to write articles about contentious subjects (and not just you, Romi): if you're going to quote sources go to the original literature. Get names places dates etc. Get it 'straight from the horse's mouth' if you can, and avoid the thrice or fourth-time recycled observation-the horse's arse- at all costs.


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Post 33

frenchbean

Ooh yes: headers and subheaders please. I'm in a rush today and thought I'd read this, but was put off after a couple of paras because I couldn't see where it was heading... Lazy I know smiley - zzz, but my guess is, I'm not the only one. I'll come back to it though...
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F/b


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Post 34

St Romani Angel Guardian of Crystals. Minister of Coffee now on the decaff!!

hiya pimm smiley - smiley

I did write down all the dates, locations & sources that i found when looking into this particular history. which I would like to point out that it took me months of looking through library books to find, I have also for this reason listed all the books, authors etc, so that others can look up this for themselves.

Unfortunately all of this history is in books not on the net, that is one reason why I wrote this, as I have put all the information I could find in this article the only thing I can think of now is to reword some of it to fit the EG.

romismiley - rose


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Post 35

St Romani Angel Guardian of Crystals. Minister of Coffee now on the decaff!!

hi FM smiley - smiley

as ive already stated I did go to all of the original literature quoted, and I have put all the names, places, dates etc I could find into this article.

as for getting this information "straight from the horses mouth" I'm afraid as it is history, unfortunately most of the people who made this history are no longer with us, so that would be a little hard to do.

romi


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Post 36

St Romani Angel Guardian of Crystals. Minister of Coffee now on the decaff!!

hi frenchbeansmiley - smiley

smiley - yikes I never gave a thought to headers or sub-headers.

smiley - sorry

romi


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Post 37

Zarquon's Singing Fish!

I think they would help the entry, romi. smiley - smiley

Will you be putting any in?

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Post 38

St Romani Angel Guardian of Crystals. Minister of Coffee now on the decaff!!

hiya Z smiley - biggrin

yes as soon as I get the time i will put some in.............just finished work right now & having a quick look to see if theres any replies on this thread before I go to bed

will look at it again soon smiley - ok

romi


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Post 39

Zarquon's Singing Fish!

Let us know when you've had another look and you consider the entry finished. smiley - smiley

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Post 40

Zarquon's Singing Fish!

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