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Peer Review: A88026708 - 'The Watch' - the Television Series

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Bluebottle

Entry: 'The Watch' - the Television Series - A88026708
Author: Bluebottle - U43530

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A88026708 - 'The Watch' - the Television Series

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SashaQ - happysad

Well done - captures the controversy clearly. I have read some things about this series, but I appreciate your summing up of the casting smiley - ok. That is disappointing that Ruth Madeley is literally boxed in by the role her character was given.

Confusing about species diversity indeed - one interview with Jo Eaton-Kent calls them Cheery the dwarf, but presumably they are as tall as the humans in the show... Not good that age and size diversity has been decreased, either...

Excellent choice of quote from Neil Gaiman about Batman smiley - batsmiley - ok


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SashaQ - happysad

Ah - "in the television series dwarfs are indistinguishable from bearded humans." - fascinating smiley - raisedeyebrow

Was Captain John Keel the captain of The Watch before Vimes?

"who is the model Captain John Keel inspired by" - something missing in that sentence?

The concluding paragraph is spot on smiley - ok


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Post 4

Bluebottle

Thanks for your comments there, I've made a couple of tweaks.

With regards John Keel, it is a bit open ended. He is definitely a captain of the Watch before Vimes, but dies shortly after Vimes joins. Who replaces him then is not said but it would seem unlikely to be Vimes considering his inexperience, so presumably there is at least one other captain between Keel and Vimes, but this is never stated either way.

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Otto Fisch ("One, you started coming over. Two, you started sleeping over. Three, you started taking over. Four, you told me it was over.")


I probably liked this a lot more than most people - perhaps because I only read the first dozen or so Pratchett novels. I watched it expecting to hate it mainly because it was Steampunk, but ended up quite enjoying it on its own merits - though I agree with the conclusion that "it is not discworld."

I didn't like the ending either, but I can't really remember it... but I think that annoyed me more than anything else. I agree with some of the cross-gender casting being odd... I think it's difficult to both (a) have transgender characters or fantasy races that appear transgender to the viewer and (b) do straightforward gender blind casting in the same programme.

Wasn't there something slightly odd about the wording on authorship... was it described as "being inspired by the characters created by Terry Pratchett"... which feels about right.


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Bluebottle

According to IMDB, 4 of the eight episodes have a 'inspired by characters created by Terry Pratchett' credit, which is either wrong or presumably implies that the characters were only half-inspired by him smiley - huh

I think they went for one of those surprise twist endings to lead into a second series, which only really works if they get a second series. Otherwise it is just annoying. (I just checked and there is no official confirmation over whether it will be recommissioned or cancelled).

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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

>>Instead of being Vetinari's male secretary in this adaptation Wonse (Bianca Simone Mannie) is a woman who works at Unseen University as a cleaner but has some magical powers. <<

Why "but has"? Can't a cleaner have magical powers?

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>>The series is smugly self-satisfied that it has assembled what it considers to be a diverse cast. <<
Is the series really capable of smugness? Or do you mean the writers of this adaptation?

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>>The series then forgets that the cast is only half the work. <<
No, the series isn't capable of forgetting. The writers wrote it differently.

smiley - tea

>>He has reappeared 20 years later unaged and with previously unknown magical powers and a design to destroy the world.<<
He has reappeared 20 years later, unaged with previously unknown magical powers and a design to destroy the world.

Having read this review, I'm not sorry I missed this series. Did you watch it due to the Pratchett connection and were disappointed? Was it suitable for children?

GB
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Post 8

Bluebottle

Thanks for the read-through, I've made some changes.

With the points you've raised I can concede that a cleaner can have magical powers (not sure that's recommended - I've seen 'The Sorcerer's Apprentice' in 'Fantasia') but in 'The Watch' magical ability is seen is quite rare and Wonse is shown as being someone who has a strong magical ability, but not really using it. She comes across as a character who the writers thought 'we need a cleaner in episode 1, oh and someone with strong magical powers by the end of the series - to save money we'll combine the characters into one actress and hope no-one notices...'

I made the changes regarding series as you suggested, but used 'producers' as I do not know whether the writer(s) were involved in casting. I've also mentioned it is unsuitable for pre-teens.

Thanks again. I must admit I watched it for the Pratchett connection and was disappointed. Had it not been 'Discworld' themed and I saw it I probably thought it was okay.

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SashaQ - happysad

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