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SashaQ - happysad and 'slightly mad'

Entry: '20,000 Leagues Under the Sea' - a Novel by Jules Verne - A87970602
Author: SashaQ - happysad and 'slightly mad' - U9936370

This Entry is dedicated to my dad.

He read 'Around the World in 80 Days' so I didn't have to, but we both watched the film. I read this novel for a book club meeting, and quite enjoyed watching the film as well.


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Gnomon - time to move on

Hi Sasha

You give two different figures in leagues which you translate to smaller units. Both of these appear to be wrong.

Near the start you have:
four leagues or 16,000 yards

Later you have:
5,250 leagues (11,340 miles)

A league is normally 3 miles, but neither of your conversions fit this. Are French leagues as used by Jules Verne different?

encunters --> encounters

veneratied --> venerated

You don't say what happens to the prisoners - are they released or does the book end with them still being held captive?

I think the Movie header should be moved back one sentence to before the sentence "This Entry could conveniently..."

but when they have each punched the other -- this is not bad but I think it would sound better as:
but when they have punched each other

the destruction of Nemo's life and work -- this sounds odd. You don't normally talk about the destruction of someone's life. I'd suggest:

Nemo's death and the destruction his work

Would it be worth mentioning Alan Lee's series of graphic novels "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen"? These are based on the premise that all fiction is actually true, and depict an odd world in which there are aliens on Mars, vampires and a secret agent called James Bond. One of the members of the titular 'league' is Captain Nemo himself, who in this version is an Indian gentleman. The version of the Nautilus in the graphic novel is a masterpiece of Steampunk.

smiley - smiley G


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SashaQ - happysad and 'slightly mad'

Hi Gnomon

Thanks for reading smiley - biggrin I have made some changes accordingly smiley - ok

I will check my notes later to track down what is going on with the yards/leagues/miles smiley - ok I'm not familiar with 'The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen', so I will look into that later as well smiley - ok


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SashaQ - happysad and 'slightly mad'

I checked the league and found it is the 'league of Paris' so I added more information accordingly smiley - ok

I also found the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Entry, so I worked that in smiley - ok


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Gnomon - time to move on

Are the yards standard imperial ones or are they different as well?

By my reckoning 20,000 leagues should be 73,000km, not 72 (a small difference, I know) and 5250 leagues should be 11,930, not 11,340. There's no point in putting in precise values if they are not accurate.


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Gnomon - time to move on

It looks very good now.

It would be worth mentioning that at the time of writing, the existence of the continent of Antarctica was debatable. Many believed that the South Pole was a frozen sea like the Arctic Ocean. This enabled the Nautilus to travel under the ice to the South Pole.


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Gnomon - time to move on

Ah, I see this is a can of worms, because the French foot and yard were slightly bigger than the English foot and yard.

The Lieue de Paris was equal to 12,000 "pieds de roi", commonly called feet, but:

1 British Imperial = 304.8mm (exactly)
1 pieds du roi = 324.8mm approximately


The difference is small so it is probably best just to leave your measurements as they are.


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SashaQ - happysad and 'slightly mad'

Thanks Gnomon smiley - biggrin

I have added more detail about the measurements, in particular to clarify that some are specified in the book.

I didn't add any more to the mention of the South Pole, as the Nautilus was able to travel quite close to the it, but Nemo had to go on land to get to the actual Pole - Verne had knowledge of Dumont d'Urville's expedition in 1840 and the Ross expedition in 1843 smiley - ok


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Gnomon - time to move on

Apologies. I must be misremembering it. I last read it in 1974.


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SashaQ - happysad and 'slightly mad'

No problem - it was a strange episode in the book (an iceberg fell over, hence the Nautilus became trapped under ice), so I had to read it twice to visualise what was happening.


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Gnomon - time to move on

OK, I've just checked the text on Gutenberg. They went by submarine to within two hours' walk of the South Pole which is certainly not possible.


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SashaQ - happysad and 'slightly mad'

Thanks Gnomon - I have worked that in now smiley - ok


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Gnomon - time to move on

Thanks Sasha.

I wouldn't say the South Pole "was only discovered in 1911", as it was known about long before 1911. I'd say:

"was first reached only in 1911"



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SashaQ - happysad and 'slightly mad'

Good point - thanks Gnomon. I made changes smiley - ok


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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor

I haven't read the book, so I found this an interesting Entry to read. The only thing I noticed is that I am sure there were more than just one movie adaptation? You also don't seem to give a year when the movie you write about was made. I seem to remember having seen one that was probably made in the 70s or so.


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SashaQ - happysad and 'slightly mad'

Thanks for reading smiley - biggrin

The Disney version was 1954, but it might be the one you're thinking of as 1970s, as it has that sort of 'flavour' to it, I think. I found one from 1997 and one from 1916, so I put them in a footnote smiley - ok


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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor

smiley - cheers great!


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Bluebottle

Strangely true - this was Disney's fifth pure live-action film (ie, one containing no animation at all and excluding the 1955 compilation 'Davy Crockett, King of the Wild Frontier' 'film' that was three episodes of the 'Disneyland' television series put together) and the first not to be filmed in Britain - location filming took place in Jamaica and the Bahamas. Disney's first live-action film to be filmed in America was their seventh live-action film, 'The Great Locomotive Chase' (1956).

Most people assume that Disney made films in the United States before filming internationally, but instead they made films internationally before filming in the United States.

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Congratulations! smiley - bubbly


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