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Having a Wales of a time!

Post 1

Paigetheoracle

Wales is an underrated country. Everybody goes on about Scotland’s decimated wasteland but what about the mountainous country that still has trees - real native woodland, not deforested desert. On top of this water and caves feature as well as a plethora of real castles.

For instance around Swansea there is the famous Waterfall Walk at the Upper Vale of Neath (a dozen waterfalls in the space of two miles, from ten to ninety feet high because it is the confluence of four rivers - the Taff, Hepste, Pentre and Henryd; including The Gladys Falls, a curtain waterfall which is spectacular during the rainy season). At Ystradglynais the river disappeared into a large cave, reappearing a few hundred yards further downstream.

Then there is 3 Cliffs Bay on The Gower (avoid the Mumbles, full of adders sunbathing on the rocks according to a local I once met). It has stepping stones across a small stream. Beyond that is a small sea arch, a large sandy beach and a rock pool deep enough to bath in (a natural jacuzzi). The other side of the stream is a ruined castle on the hill and a marsh beyond (most people end up at the Worms Head but this is more scenic).

Beyond this is Tenby, with its quaint town walls and sheer cliffs - the start of a spectacular walk around The Pembrokeshire Coastal Path. You come to The Lattice Window first, an unusual rock formation, followed by Barafundle Bay, which you gain access to via a gate in a wall (nice sandy beach and grove of pines on far side). Bosherston Lily pools are beyond that, followed by Stackpole Head, with its collapsed caves, stacks and square window in rock. Finally you come to Castlemartin tank range with its dayglo tank, with the trio of The Elegug Stacks (two rock formations covered in a living white hair of seagulls, nesting there) plus chough colony on the mainland, where you view these from; The Devils Cauldron, a gigantic collapsed cave that if you lie down and peak over the edge, you can see the sea crashing on the rocks below. Lastly comes the Green Bridge of Wales, a rival to Durdles Door on The Dorset Coast.

Inland there is Pembroke Castle and Dan-Yr-Ogof show caves, the premier cavern system in Europe (also has dinosaur models outside): Wookey Hole near Wells, has more delicate stalagmite and stalactite sections (mini-cave systems) as does Cheddar Gorge.

The centre of the country has a ratchet and pinion train ride from Aberystwyth into the hills. It features The Mynach Falls at the Devil’s Bridge which Wordsworth visited and The Eagles Gorge, where Red Kites can be seen. Also central is Coed-Y-Brenin or the Kings Forest, the largest natural woodland left in Great Britain, if my memory serves me right (Scotland is all pines as is Thetford Chase and the New Forest is mostly scrub). Approaching Cadair Idris at dusk, it looks like some vast storm cloud approaching: If you are lucky you may see glow worms on the roadside (simply enchanting).

The North opens up via the railway journey over the Barmouth Estuary, with the sea full of seaweed below you. Beyond that is Portmeirion, where Patrick McGoohan’s TV series ’The Prisoner’ was filmed. Clever camera tricks made small buildings look large, on top of which there are stairs starting half way up a bell tower and other buildings that were just facades (beautiful!). Next comes the Blaenau Ffestiniog railway, up to the slate caverns at Llechwedd - spectacular in the morning mists. This is followed by an ordinary train trip to Betws-Y-Coed and The Fairy Glen (Swallow Falls weren’t that good in my opinion but apparently Victorian artists adored them). This is a dark, peat filled stream with pots, worn into the white rock, by water turning stones around, drilling holes into the surface (eerie looking). It is similar in appearance to the Eagles Gorge but easier to gain access to. There is also a legend associated with the area, of a knight killing a water horse at the bridge close by. In the vicinity is The Aberglaslyn Pass walk - an old road way you can walk along, that runs parallel to the main road above, giving good views of the small but attractive mountain range above.

Along the north coast is Conway, with its castle, town walls and railway bridge by Thomas Telford - again very attractive. There is also another ninety foot high waterfall close to the town, The Aber Falls which is easier to get to than the one at Swansea’s Waterfall Walk. Close to Llandudno are some interesting inland cliffs in layers, that resemble those in the Lake district. Also here are Bodnant Gardens, well worth a visit as far as landscaped gardens go.

The only places worth visiting in The West Country are around Tintagel, with its spectacular cave running underneath and St. Nectan’s Kieve, a small valley leading to a waterfall with a pot worn into the rocks below, from which the river spews out in a fracture in its side (enchanting little spot, named after a Celtic saint, whose sisters are supposed to have buried him in the river after diverting the stream). It is very similar to the largest waterfall in Wales, Pistyll Rhaeadr, in Llanrhaeadr-Ym-Mochnant (the valley of the pig) but not as high (maybe 20ft as opposed to 120ft). Again flowing into a pot and breaking out the bottom. This county also used to feature very accurately made buildings in its model village (Cornucopia) but alas it is no more. Also in this part of the country are the caves mentioned previously, Wookey Hole and Cheddar Gorge. Wiltshire has a spectacular drive at Longleat House, featuring a wealth of colour in May, when the rhododendrons, azaleas and other flowered trees and shrubs burst into bloom.

Scotland has the highest cliffs in mainland Britain at Cape Wrath (You may catch seals below, laying on a slab of rock and thinking that they look like maggots on a lump of cheese). On the North coast also is Smoo Cavern, which is the remains of a long sea cave, composed now of just a small cave with a boat tied at one end, where water floods in, in quite a spectacular fashion. Apart from this I think Scotland is overrated, just like Devon and Cornwall are.


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Post 2

ITIWBS

You should rewrite this as guide entries, one per destination.


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Post 3

paulh. Antisocial distancing works a well as the Social kind

I didn't know that Scotland had been losing its vegetation. smiley - huh


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Post 4

Recumbentman

Read George Monbiot on the criminal deforestation committed by putting sheep on the highlands. They nip every seedling in the bud.

I once visited Pistyll Rhaeadr in Wales, and mentioned it later at the local B & B. I neglected to pronounce -yll as -oo(ch), and the people I was speaking to gave a wonderful impression of never having heard of such a place. Every non-Welsh visitor must make exactly the same mistake, yet it apparently flew right over their heads. That seemed petty to me.


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Post 5

Paigetheoracle

I was going to write this as a guide entry, egged on by Dmitri but I got this error message and panicked, yes me! So instead I plunged it into the Lounge as I knew I wouldn't get an error message with that (Even I couldn't mess it up there I thought). Now Dmitri has contacted me again and said I needed to change my skin - being a part time werewolf I tried it but haven't as yet turned this into a guide entry: by the way do you mean an official entry for Peer Review or the AWW (see, I am getting into the lingo already but software...).smiley - wah


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Post 6

ITIWBS

smiley - applauseYes, I meant official PR item(s).

You mention several destinations I'd like to see on a prospective tour of the UK, though that won't be this year.


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paulh. Antisocial distancing works a well as the Social kind

Do large saplings manage to avoid damage by sheep?


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Post 8

ITIWBS

If they're too large to be girdled.


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Post 9

Gingersnapper+Keeper of the Cookie Jar and Stuff and Nonsense

~ Great piece ~ and we are pretty good invirmentalist here in the North West, USA. We fight to keep our trees from logging And in my city of Portland, Oregon, You need a city permit to cut down a free or be fined. And of course England lost a lot of forests to build all thoes sailing ships to fight the Spanish Armada, etc. ..and on and on. SAD.


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Gingersnapper+Keeper of the Cookie Jar and Stuff and Nonsense

~ PS ~ We Do have a lot of trees in the Pacific North West. And we aim to keep them. We have a lot of rain, also.


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Post 11

paulh. Antisocial distancing works a well as the Social kind

Yes, yew have rain forests.


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Post 12

Gingersnapper+Keeper of the Cookie Jar and Stuff and Nonsense

Yes, ~ ‘the Rainforests of Olympic National Park” In Washington State and About a 3 hour drive North of me, Portland, Oregon and a bit South West of Seattle, Washington.
Very beautiful.


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Post 13

Baron Grim

Decades ago, I heard conservative bloviator, Rush Limbaugh dismiss antilogging activists and environmentalists with a very misleading but true factoid. He claimed that there were more trees in North America today (about 25 years ago, IIRC) than there were in the Colonial era. Yep, that's probably true because of tree farming. But a monoculture of young pines is not a forest. It's not a healthy, diverse environment. It's old growth forests that really count.


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Post 14

Recumbentman

"Do large saplings manage to avoid damage by sheep?"

Yes, but to become large they have to survive the small sapling stage, at which time they are special delicacies. Sheep hoover up everything that pokes its first leaf out of the ground. Grass can survive that, but saplings can't.


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Post 15

paulh. Antisocial distancing works a well as the Social kind

" that's probably true because of tree farming. But a monoculture of young pines is not a forest. It's not a healthy, diverse environment. It's old growth forests that really count." [Baron Grim]

I've been reading "The hidden life of trees." Trees are social creatures when they get the chance. Oaks in particular send nutrients and messages to other trees through their roots. You might see a cluster of young trees close together and wonder how they can survive. What you can't see is the nutrient-sharing that they use.

Also, tree farming accounts for only part of the increase in forest cover. Along the East Coast, much of the regrowth was a natural process. Seeds were blown into fields or deposited by squirrels of Bluejays. Pioneer species such as birch and Aspens moved in first, followed by pines and then oaks and maples. It's a progression. Nature is really good at reclaiming fields. I watched it happen in a neighbor's field when I was growing up. Not a single tree was planted by anyone.


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