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Announcement 2021-10-12: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Book is 42 today!

Post 21

Baron Grim

smiley - cheers


Announcement 2021-10-12: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Book is 42 today!

Post 22

Bluebottle

I was introduced to it from the radio show and still think the pictures on the radio series are much clearer.

<BB<


Announcement 2021-10-12: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Book is 42 today!

Post 23

Baron Grim

Now that I think about it, I'm fairly sure I read the book, maybe even the first two before I saw the TV series. I say this with some confidence because I always thought Sandra Dickinson was so wrong as Trillian. In the book she's described as vaguely Arabic. (And while I do have an affinity for Zoe Deshanel, and quite enjoyed her small role in Almost Famous, and her starring role in "The New Girl", she was also wrong in the film, as was the romantic plot line.)
I wanted her to have dark hair and complexion, and to be convincingly intellectual.


Announcement 2021-10-12: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Book is 42 today!

Post 24

Milla, h2g2 Operations

smiley - boingsmiley - pggb

smiley - towel


Announcement 2021-10-12: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Book is 42 today!

Post 25

Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U.

"Slartibartfast" smiley - magic What a namesmiley - smiley

Conjures up many thoughtssmiley - biggrin

A Swedish breakfast ?
A drinking festival ?
A drunk in a pizza/kebab place trying to put an order in ?

It's endless!

BUT! To come up with the name is pure genius!!!! smiley - magic


Announcement 2021-10-12: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Book is 42 today!

Post 26

Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~

The smiley - book gave me the best pictures smiley - ok


Announcement 2021-10-12: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Book is 42 today!

Post 27

paulh, the apocalypse is coming, it's just late

I probably saw the TV series first. But I would have read the book(s) soon thereafter. Much of what I know about writing I learned form Douglas Adams.

But I'm *still* learning new things about writing. Maybe this is supposed to be a lifelong process. But as my arms and fingers get more and more clumsy over time, my productivity suffers. I don't notice errors, even though I make more of them. I've spent vast amounts of time writing and rewriting the material I will be posting in NaJoPoMo. Almost every time I reread some section of it, I see things that are either erroneous or could have been expressed differently/better. At this rate, I will never get anything done.

Just please be understanding when you see what I've written. smiley - grovel


Announcement 2021-10-12: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Book is 42 today!

Post 28

Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~

smiley - dontpanic, paulh, we understand

And I agree, learning to write does indeed appear to be a life long proces


Announcement 2021-10-12: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Book is 42 today!

Post 29

paulh, the apocalypse is coming, it's just late

I hope you will be reading my efforts.

smiley - doh I've just realized that your country is not represented in my NaJoPoMo. Sorry


Announcement 2021-10-12: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Book is 42 today!

Post 30

Baron Grim

Prof Animal Chaos, did you hear (read) the story about Douglas Adams coming up with the name for Slartibartfast and how it wasn't his original choice?

If you haven't, here's the story according to U42 in the footnotes to the original radio scripts, 10th Anniversary Edition.

"I thought that this character should be a dignified, elderly man weighted down with the burden of a secret sorrow. I wondered what this sorrow should be, and thought perhaps he might be sad about his name. So I decided to give him a name that anybody would be sad to have. I wanted it to sound as gross as it possibly could, while still being broadcastable. So I started with something that was clearly completely unbroadcastable, which was PHARTIPHUKBORLZ, and simply played around with the syllables until I arrived at something which sounded that rude, but was almost, but not quite entirely inoffensive." (DNA)

Later, I'm not sure whether in print or an interview or what, he added a little more context.

“One thing I don't think I explained in the script book was that I was also teasing the typist, Geoffrey Perkins's secretary, because ... she'd be typing out this long and extraordinary name which would be quite an effort to type and right at the beginning he says 'My name is not important, and I'm not going to tell you what it is'. I was just being mean to Geoffrey's secretary.” (DNA)

smiley - towel


Announcement 2021-10-12: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Book is 42 today!

Post 31

Baron Grim

Oh, and "Geoffry" is Geoffry Perkins, the producer of the BBC Radio series.


Announcement 2021-10-12: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Book is 42 today!

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Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U.

Baron! smiley - smiley I will read that later and thank you!

PS:smiley - winkeye(being as modest as I amsmiley - whistle)just Prof! Will do smiley - oksmiley - winkeyesmiley - biggrinsmiley - biggrin


Announcement 2021-10-12: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Book is 42 today!

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Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U.

On THAT page smiley - smiley I will read many over a period of time smiley - smiley
Again! Thanks Baronsmiley - hug


Announcement 2021-10-12: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Book is 42 today!

Post 34

Recumbentman

I'm with Bluebottle. It was originally conceived as a radio sensory explosion, which it delivered triumphantly. Each subsequent iteration (including the books) stepped the achievement down a rung.


Announcement 2021-10-12: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Book is 42 today!

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paulh, the apocalypse is coming, it's just late

I thought that the first two or three books were marvels of good writing. It's just that entropy stepped in. Even bringing in Elvis on a planet of his own could not save things.

Arthur Dent was a great satire on Englishmen, though probably an extreme example. He was barely comfortable within his comfort zone, and when you took him out of that (which space travel was bound to do), the results were funny but the gag got old when carried too far -- which was guaranteed to happen as Adams kept writing new books in the series.

Especially taking him out of England. Tolkien created the very English Shire, and took his hobbits out of it, knowing they'd be desperate to get back to it. Frodo got back, but then had to die. Dent eventually got back to Earth, and then had to die almost as soon as he did. He didn't even get back to earth England, but rather Earth California.

As a writer, you're supposed to do bad things to good characters. But there are limits to this. I don't know what I wanted Adams to do for Dent. Even if he got back to England, it wasn't going to be the same England he left. Trillian was going to adapt and thrive. Ford was going to do likewise. But Dent? He had to keep suffering indignity after indignity, at best.


Announcement 2021-10-12: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Book is 42 today!

Post 36

Recumbentman

Martin Freeman delivered a great Arthur Dent, and Bill Nighy was a born Slartibartfast. The rest were OK but fairly meh in that film.


Announcement 2021-10-12: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Book is 42 today!

Post 37

Recumbentman

The later books had their flashes of brilliance: the SEP field is a radical insight.


Announcement 2021-10-12: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Book is 42 today!

Post 38

Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~

I'm glad my first rung was The More Than Complete h2g2. I read the intro - albeit with some difficulty due to the tears of laughter in my eye smiley - piratesmiley - laughsmiley - roflsmiley - brave - and was instantly hooked smiley - offtopic
I agree on Freeman, Nighy and last but certainly not least on the SEP solution, which is one of two things from the smiley - booksmiley - booksmiley - booksmiley - booksmiley - booksmiley - book that have helped me enormously ever since.
The other was of course this:
"The point is that there is no point in driving yourself mad trying to stop yourself going mad.
You might as well give in and save your sanity for later." [Ford Prefect]


Announcement 2021-10-12: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Book is 42 today!

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paulh, the apocalypse is coming, it's just late

Mos Def puzzled me as Ford Prefect. I liked Zooey deschanel and Sam Rockwell as Trillian and Zaphod. But by then the dolphins had abandoned ship, and the Muppets had taken over the Vogons.


Announcement 2021-10-12: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Book is 42 today!

Post 40

Baron Grim

Oh, I was very impressed by those Vogons. I think I prefer "muppets" to CGI.

And I had no problem believing Mos Def might just be from another planet.


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