A Conversation for Calculating Square Roots of Any Number By Hand
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GTBacchus Posted Sep 19, 2002
I've tried breaking up the example and putting partial versions in-between the paragraphs of text in the final section. This is, of course, tentative, and I want to hold off on doing anything else until I get feedback from the author on what changes *s/he* wants to have made.
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NAITA (Join ViTAL - A1014625) Posted Sep 19, 2002
One more suggestion I lay humbly before you, SubEd and Author. How about fitting the example into the description of the steps. I think that would make for a shorter and more intuitive entry. As it is the description of the steps alone and without the example will scare off all but the most geeky.
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GTBacchus Posted Sep 19, 2002
I've just added some labels to the tables (rhyme!), just experimenting with GuideML. I've not played with tables enough, really, and still have a lot to learn. The labels I've just added are a bit redundant with the nearby text, so they'll probably come back out.
That's just in case anybody was wondering...
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#202044 Posted Sep 19, 2002
#202044 here...
I think that perhaps in the section where the example is worked in detail, it might not hurt to slowly build up the example. Maybe have one table-diagram showing the problem in the first step, then another diagram showing the way the problem ought to look after step two, and if you are ambitious - maybe a table-diagram after each repetition of step 3, although only one might suffice, with a complete table-diagram to cap off the end of the procedure.
I would have liked to have inserted the example earlier in the entry, but trying to work in an example at the same time I was explaining the procedure was making a muddled mess of things, and leaving the procedure more difficult to follow than it already is...
I was a little afraid of the table-based diagram effort at first, but it cleans up well with the appropriate spacing. Intermediate table-diagrams might be a nice way to go, in as far as they will also break up the example section a bit.
Regards,
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#202044 Posted Sep 20, 2002
I like it - I like it very much!
Also - thank you for the footnote on the "radical sign" terminology...I sometimes take too much math jargon for granted.
Thanks, and regards,
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GTBacchus Posted Sep 23, 2002
Those who found this entry hard to follow, could you let me know if it's any easier now? I've just done a bit more tweaking.
cheers,
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six7s Posted Sep 23, 2002
I think the idea behind this entry is brilliant and definitely warrants inclusion in the guide
But, I agree with some of the points raised in earlier posts regarding the incorporation of the workings of an example into the body of the piece rather than as an appendage
I only discovered this piece about an hour ago and although I admit to actually enjoying maths, I'm struggling a bit
I'd suggest:
using a number with no repeating digits, like 12.3456 or 987.654
dividing the method into a much larger number of steps
getting the Community gang involved to create gifs or similar to display the workings
But, as I said, I still think it's , just a bit confusing
six7's
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GTBacchus Posted Sep 23, 2002
Ok, the consensus seems to be that we need an example worked out, step by step, accompanying the main explanation of the method. I can do that. I think, to further illustrate variations, it would be good to have another couple of examples, fully worked out (without showing all the partially done versions) at the end. I'm going to work on that, using the format I've worked out, and then post here again. Then maybe some community s can see about getting those s turned into .GIFs, or whatever.
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Martin Harper Posted Sep 23, 2002
could you use colours to make it easier to follow?
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GTBacchus Posted Sep 23, 2002
Like, specifically how? Would it be good to colour whatever's new in a given step differently from the rest, or what? I know that colours can be very clarifying, but I haven't the first clue how to use them properly.
(Then there's convincing the in-house team to keep the colours when it goes into the Edited Guide...)
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GTBacchus Posted Sep 23, 2002
Right, I've added an example to the explanation of the steps. I still have to add a couple more fully-worked-out examples at the end. Maybe I'll do the square root of 1764.
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GTBacchus Posted Sep 23, 2002
Unless someone tells me otherwise, I'm done, and off to find out more about this Community Artist scheme.
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mad matician Posted Nov 15, 2002
another way to find the square root
(g/2)+(a/2g)
a=10 , g=3.2 (an approximation of the square root)
(3.2/2)+(10/(2X3.2))
= 3.1625
(3.1625/2)+(10/(2X3.1625))
=3.16227766798418972
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six7s Posted Nov 15, 2002
Hi there Researcher 209151
Your method is also very , I've tried it with a range of numbers and the results are surprisingly accurate considering how simply / easily they are obtained
The entry that this thread is attached to has been *upgraded* into an Edited Guide version, complete with easy (well much easier ) to read *image* versions of the workings - see A827453
You might want to re-post your method there, or maybe even write it up as a separate entry
By the way, if you go to your personal space and add an Introduction (even just a few words will do for starters) then your space will become *active*, which means that an ACE (and other researchers) can drop by and give you a proper welcome
Whilst your there, you might like to change your *name* too. As much as numbers are fascinating, they do tend to be hard to remember
And as you seem to like numbers, you might want to check out *The Myth of 42* at A530560
six7s
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mad matician Posted Nov 16, 2002
Hi six7s ~ everything in moderation, including moderation
Thanks for writing back, however, i only really understood about half of wot u said! (twas my first post).
wot were u sayin about reposting my method somewhere.
sorry 4 soundin a bit thick!
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six7s Posted Nov 16, 2002
Hi there 209151
Sorry if my posting was a bit confusing...
As you have added an Intro to your space, an ACE will drop by your space sometime soon with loads of handy hints on how to find your way around this amazing place and then all (or at least some ) of my waffle will start to make sense
six7s
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