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Bluebottle Started conversation Oct 28, 2010
Entry: Hampshire Earthwork Castles - A75730386
Author: Bluebottle - U43530
An overview about earthwork castles in Hampshire, which in no way prevents anyone from writing a more detailed guide to individual castles later on.
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BMT Posted Oct 28, 2010
You certainly do some in depth research on these castles BB. I'll finish reading this later.
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h5ringer Posted Oct 29, 2010
A good overview BB. I just have a few minor points:
For the benefit of non-UK readers, it might be of benefit to slightly amplify the location of Hampshire by changing <> to <>
<> is a list and should be punctuated <> Also MediƦval --> Medieval
nineteen year period --> 19 year period
15th century --> 15th Century
Henry de Vlois should be Henry de Blois?
You variously prefix your OS map references with nothing, 'reference', 'grid reference' and 'map reference'. Could you be consistent please?
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Vip Posted Nov 5, 2010
Heya BB, another good Entry.
A couple of points from me:
"First of all they could be constructed cheaply, by those who could not afford the expense of purchasing vast quantities of stone and paying for the skilled labour needed to construct stone defences. They offered a measure of protection to those wealthy enough to afford some protection but not able to afford stone defences."
--> these two sentences sort of say the same thing. Can they be combined?
"Papal Legate"
--> could you drop in a footnote for those of us who don't recognise this term?
"William Briwere3 who was granted a licence to crenellat"
--> crenellat?
Aside from that, it all looks good to me.
A75730386 - Hampshire Earthwork Castles
Bluebottle Posted Dec 28, 2010
I wonder whether we have any further suggestions?
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bobstafford Posted Dec 30, 2010
Mmmm
Perhaps an explanation of the terms Ringwork and Seigework for those who are new to the subject.
Also a word or two about castles that started as an earthwork and developed, and mention regarding those that not develop, that whats left now is minus the wooden walls and service buildings.
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Bluebottle Posted Jan 4, 2011
Some changes made, I'll add a bit more later.
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AlexAshman Posted Jan 27, 2011
I've nothing to bemoan here - this is some good stuff! This could easily turn into a huge project...
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Lanzababy - Guide Editor Posted Jan 30, 2011
Seems good to go?
Is everyone happy with this?
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Bluebottle Posted Feb 2, 2011
I'm assuming that the answer is yes.
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Vip Posted Feb 3, 2011
Just giving it a final look-over in case I missed something first time...
"These consisted of an artificial hill, known as a motte, often with a wooden tower on top, and a bailey, an enclosed defended area below the motte."
--> I read that 'below' to mean underneath/underground. Does it mean around the base of the hill, or something else?
You give map references - from which map?
"Archaeologists uncovered an 8-foot thick flint wall and the base of an ashlar keep."
-->what's ashlar?
Then I really am done.
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MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. Posted Feb 3, 2011
One late one...
>>It is therefore difficult to determine precisely when they constructed, who by and why. <<
>>It is therefore difficult to determine precisely when they were constructed, by whom and/or why. <<
MMF
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MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. Posted Feb 3, 2011
Another?
>>During this time as Winchester was the political capital of England much of the fighting took place around Winchester and the surrounding Hampshire countryside.<<
>>During this time, as Winchester was the political capital of England, much of the fighting took place around Winchester and the surrounding Hampshire countryside.<<
>>and so he became one of the most powerful men in England, second only his brother King Stephen.<<
>>and so he became one of the most powerful men in England, second only to his brother King Stephen.<<
Think I've finished -picking!
MMF
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Deadangel - Still not dead, just! Posted Feb 4, 2011
I've a few comments, but I'll add them later, when I've time.
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Bluebottle Posted Feb 5, 2011
I'll look forward to reading those comments Deadangel when I'm back from holiday - but I've amended the article as the other suggestions have recommended.
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Peer Review : A75730386 - Hampshire Earthwork Castles
- 1: Bluebottle (Oct 28, 2010)
- 2: BMT (Oct 28, 2010)
- 3: h5ringer (Oct 29, 2010)
- 4: Bluebottle (Oct 29, 2010)
- 5: Vip (Nov 5, 2010)
- 6: Bluebottle (Nov 5, 2010)
- 7: Bluebottle (Dec 28, 2010)
- 8: bobstafford (Dec 30, 2010)
- 9: Bluebottle (Jan 4, 2011)
- 10: AlexAshman (Jan 27, 2011)
- 11: Lanzababy - Guide Editor (Jan 30, 2011)
- 12: Bluebottle (Feb 2, 2011)
- 13: Vip (Feb 3, 2011)
- 14: Bluebottle (Feb 3, 2011)
- 15: Vip (Feb 3, 2011)
- 16: MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. (Feb 3, 2011)
- 17: MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. (Feb 3, 2011)
- 18: Deadangel - Still not dead, just! (Feb 4, 2011)
- 19: Bluebottle (Feb 5, 2011)
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