A Conversation for The Ethical Issues With Vivisection

Collaborative Writing Workshop: A740594 - The Ethical Issues With Vivisection

Post 1

ex Brigadeer, now Tealady Werekitty aka Tobru De'ran; ex sith extraordinaire, well poked veggie fascist and Goo Goose

Entry: The Ethical Issues With Vivisection - A740594
Author: werekitty (Keeper of Werebeasties, Lexx and Kai) - U193430

Here it is.

again.






hello?


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Post 2

Felonious Monk - h2g2s very own Bogeyman

Hello again.


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Post 3

ex Brigadeer, now Tealady Werekitty aka Tobru De'ran; ex sith extraordinaire, well poked veggie fascist and Goo Goose

*looks in fear*
aaah!
smiley - cuddle
Thanks for coming.
You wanna write something and I'll put it in?


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Post 4

Felonious Monk - h2g2s very own Bogeyman

OK, I'll have a think about it first though. I may be quite some time as I'm up to my eyeballs in other things.


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ex Brigadeer, now Tealady Werekitty aka Tobru De'ran; ex sith extraordinaire, well poked veggie fascist and Goo Goose

cool. And tell me what you think is too extreme or emotive and smiley - magic It'll be gone, or I can alter the headings. I want to show all views.


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Post 6

Z

Hiya Werekitty

Sorry if I offeneded you with some of my last points, feel free to cut and paste anything I said in the last conversation forum into entry. I really didn't want to be confrontational at all.


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ex Brigadeer, now Tealady Werekitty aka Tobru De'ran; ex sith extraordinaire, well poked veggie fascist and Goo Goose

it's ok, i didn't unsubscribe coz of what you said, I unsubscribed to stop the madness!

The horror.

the horror.


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Post 8

ex Brigadeer, now Tealady Werekitty aka Tobru De'ran; ex sith extraordinaire, well poked veggie fascist and Goo Goose

oh, same goes for you. Work out what you want in and out and tell me.


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Post 9

Z

I think anything I've posted in the previous conversation thread can go in. I may make a personal argument from my point of view as an entry first but I need to go and buy my Xmas cards for the year to begin with!


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Post 10

ex Brigadeer, now Tealady Werekitty aka Tobru De'ran; ex sith extraordinaire, well poked veggie fascist and Goo Goose

smiley - laugh
I think we should state the statistics, the benefits and the negatives, and the way the power given can be abused, measures to improve it and measures to stop it and current issues, what life is like being harassed by anti's and an anti's point of view. Ok?


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Post 11

ex Brigadeer, now Tealady Werekitty aka Tobru De'ran; ex sith extraordinaire, well poked veggie fascist and Goo Goose

*plays jingle bells on the repressed tension in the ether-air*


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Post 12

Z

Yup and there's alway's the deep ethical issues, ie. the value of animals in comparason to human's issue here. I think that the section about power could be one of the negatives.

Also I think there is a section on current legistlation in the UK which is rather strict should good. There should also be a section on research into alturnatives, the current use of alturnatives.. (you can get this stuff on the http://www.frame.org.uk/ website )


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Post 13

ex Brigadeer, now Tealady Werekitty aka Tobru De'ran; ex sith extraordinaire, well poked veggie fascist and Goo Goose

a link to how close humans and animals are? As one of mine? Like how we wouldn't vivisect a six year old but we would vivisect an animal of the equivalent intelligence. I too make this definition, but that's part of my insinct to protect my species and therefore it is natural specism.


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Post 14

Otto Fisch ("Stop analysing Strava.... and cut your hedge")


I could try to write a summary of Peter Singer's arguments if you like. Specisism is one of his theories....

Otto


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Post 15

Z

That would be good, I read animal liberation when I was 17 and agreed with it all totally at the time, have you read it were kitty? i think his book was the birth of hte modern animal liberation movement.


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Post 16

ex Brigadeer, now Tealady Werekitty aka Tobru De'ran; ex sith extraordinaire, well poked veggie fascist and Goo Goose

eep!


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Post 17

Z

Good isn't it? apparently he's also said that if abortions ok then it should be ok to kill children up to 28 days old.. which really isn't so nice is it?


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ex Brigadeer, now Tealady Werekitty aka Tobru De'ran; ex sith extraordinaire, well poked veggie fascist and Goo Goose

that's illogical coz the equivalent of a chickens time in the womb is as long as it's in it's egg. What's his argument for it?


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Post 19

Z

No children, as in human children! his argument is that if it's ok to kill animals then it's ok to kill human's when they are no more advanced that animals I think.


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ex Brigadeer, now Tealady Werekitty aka Tobru De'ran; ex sith extraordinaire, well poked veggie fascist and Goo Goose

smiley - blushoops!
yes, that's what I was getting at before I went off on that fowl tangent.


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