A Conversation for The Prisoner - The TV show

A739208 - The Prisoner - The TV show

Post 21

Hoovooloo

Well, the Portmeirion website says it first opened as a hotel in 1926, and Coward stayed there in 1941. It's possible he knew Williams-Ellis and didn't pay to stay, but I'm pretty sure it was all built with the intention, on one level, of taking paying guests.

It certainly gives the strong impression that the place was never at any stage intended to be a "real" village - I think the idea was to make the ongoing architectural project self-financing by charging people to stay there.

The other thing of note, which you quickly realise on walking round the place, is how *small* it is, and how generally impractical the buildings are. You couldn't really *live* in these places. They remind me in many ways of Escher drawings (plugging another entry here smiley - winkeye) in the way that they look at first sight impressive and realistic, and it's only on closer inspection you think "...hang on...". Then you notice stuff like staircases that complement the line of the building but don't go anywhere, perfectly placed windows which turn out to be just painted onto a blank wall to balance out the real ones, and cottages which look charming from every angle, but which when you get close to them you realise are only about eight feet across.

The Prisoner's own residence is a good example of this. In the TV show the interior was a set, and it was quite big, with several rooms. When you get inside the real thing, it can be quite a disappointment at how small it is in reality. This is mitigated (a bit) when you see all the cool memorabilia for sale, because Number 6's residence is now "The Prisoner Shop".

Thanks for the comments smiley - cheers

H.


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Post 22

Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista)

One point that I feel should be mentioned, on the subject of the "Rover"...

The original Rover was a huge, complex mechanical monstrosity which was so fragile that it didn't survive the journey to the set. They wasted a day trying to fix it, then pressures of time required them to find a substitute. Someone had the bright idea of "aquiring" a weather baloon from a local airfield, towing it along at speed behind a jeep and playing the film backwards, much slowed down. The "rising from the water" and "squishing face" shots were worked out later and inserted when time was less pressing.

(Source: "The Happy Prisoner", Channel 4 documentary, filtered through several years of my hazy memory...)


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Post 23

Hoovooloo

All excellent material, but I don't want to go into *too* much detail here because (a) I want to keep the reader's interest and (b) I'm a lazy idle good-for-nothing bourgeouis English mediocrity who wouldn't know hard work if it got up and gave him a haircut.

H.


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Post 24

Captain Kebab

Excellent entry Hoovooloo - I was a big fan and a member of 6 of One in the 70s and this made me go all nostalgic smiley - smiley

I remember talk of there originally being 26 episodes planned, but the plug being pulled early because it wasn't getting an audience. This was blamed in some quarters for the confusing ending - the story being that there was a more coherent plan that got lost when the show was cut short.

Or maybe that's a load of dingos' kidneys - it was long time ago and I can't remember the details for definite - there were always loads of theories about the ending, perhaps this was one of them.

Look forward to seeing this on the fromt page. smiley - smiley


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Post 25

Silverfish

I though this was a good, interesting entry, so I recommended it, and it has been accepted. Well done hoovooloo. smiley - ok


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Post 26

Gnomon - time to move on

Congratulations! smiley - bubbly


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Post 27

Azara

smiley - bubbly for Number 6!


Azara
smiley - rose


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Post 28

Captain Kebab

smiley - cheers bcnu!


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Post 29

GTBacchus

I'm just posting a note to this thread to say that I've finished Subbing the soon-to-be Edited version of this entry. It's at A744897, so if anyone wants to pop over and have a look, feel free. I think everything's sorted, and if there's no emergency corrections within 24 hours or so, I'll send it on in to the towers!

smiley - cheers


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Post 30

Smij - Formerly Jimster

Only thing I'd really recommend is losing the footnotes. There are already links to related pages / websites that explain who each of them are, so the footnotes are a bit superfluous.

Other than that, I can't wait for this to be on the Front Page.

Jimster


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Post 31

GTBacchus

Gosh, and to think that I was comtemplating taking the links out and leaving the footnotes in! Guess that's why you have a job in the Towers, and I pay to use computers at cyber-cafes in Nairobi where THE POWER GOES OUT WHILE YOU'RE TYPING! smiley - grr That just happened. Fortunately, the CPU is on a UPS, but the monitor isn't, so I was scared for a minute there. Now it's back.

Yeah, so I'll get those footnotes out. They're redundant now that we have the links.

smiley - ok

(IT JUST HAPPENED AGAIN, WHILE I WAS PREVIEWING!!!)


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Post 32

Smij - Formerly Jimster

Doncha just HATE that? The amount of anglo-saxon incantations that result after such incidents would make Joan Rivers/Bernard Manning blush.

Fortunately, when our network went down on Friday, we were all in the middle of eating cake, so it wasn't quite so distressing smiley - smiley

Jims


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