A Conversation for preparing a rabbit for the table
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Primord Started conversation Apr 29, 2002
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why anyone would want to do this is beyond me.
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ian the sweeper of skies and dream weaver Posted Apr 30, 2002
Hi,this was why I,added the part discribing it as a survival skill,and I can understand some people finding it objectionable.Provided that you are a vegetarian you are intitled to hold that it is moraly wrong,otherwise it is self trickery,as if you eat meat,you are just paying someone else to do it for you,also a wild animal has a natural life before you catch it,and remember,no wild animals die of old age.Having said all this, I understand your objections and acknowledge your right to hold them.ianmac
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Primord Posted May 2, 2002
no offence-and I am not a vegetarian-but I feel that any item that encourages the use of guns or traps does not really fit in on here.
If there was a real need for said "survival skills" then maybe---other than that, there is no need for it. And it isn't old aged animals that are killed is it? tough meat.
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Martin Harper Posted May 2, 2002
Ahh - so death and suffering is OK if it's inflicted by multinationals, but not if it's inflicted by individual people. Sorry, but that's just hypocritical. To be sure, guns and traps cause animals pain (though suffering is debatable), but that's nothing compared to what farm-raised animals go through.
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Primord Posted May 2, 2002
but surely you must agree-killing wildlife is not a good idea-and I know someone who's horse was (accidently) shot and killed by rabbit hunters-and although I say I am not a veggie-I don't eat meat---but I have to buy it for feeding my pet.
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Primord Posted May 2, 2002
and a final point---how many people who kill like this ACTUALLY do it for food?
same as Ian said-It's my thoughts-I just feel as if it's better not to give people ideas.
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ian the sweeper of skies and dream weaver Posted May 2, 2002
I understand what you are saying,and the point you make,indeed I was unsure,what sort of reception my article(if thats the correct term)would recieve.A lot of shooting people do not do it for the food.I don't need to hunt to survive.I do however eat most of what I catch both fish and game,and I can live with it.I make every effort to spare anything I kill,any suffering,physical or psychological.I understand the shooting birds for fun argument,and it is difficult to defend,and indeed I no longer do it.I do enjoy hunting for rabbits,but I also think rabbits are lovely,and don,t feel any conflict,and if you were visiting the homes of most shooter/hunters you would find that ornaments pictures etc invariably portray rural and nature scenes reflecting their love of the countryside.I am not an ogre,I cry at little house on the prairy.I keep pets,I,ve got kids.I was brought up fishing and shooting.I think it is important to allow people to have their own views,and remember rabbits have to be controlled to keep there numbers in check,better humanely than mixomatosis.
take care ianmac.
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted May 2, 2002
In a broader view regarding issues like hunting etc - whatever one may personally feel about such things, a good guide entry would balence both accounts.
There is an entry on h2g2 (I've read it) on how to construct a nuclear bomb, minus several important and lethal pointers that make it usuless as a point by point manual. However, it is written with the intent (and for this reason, on-site at all) to display how easy it would be for some person who had access to materials and the knowhow (who would then presumably be well aware of the bits ommited from the guide entry or dead) to construct such a device. The point is, the guide does not exist to "give people ideas."
My view is that this is certainly a unique contribution to the guide and I would be happy to see it pass through peer review and ultimately included as an edited entry.
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GreyDesk Posted May 3, 2002
"why anyone would want to do this is beyond me." - For lunch maybe?
But seriously my Grandmother taught me to skin a rabbit when I was about 8 years old. I also learnt not to chew rabbit stew too hard as you can never be sure that all of the shot is out of the meat. Being raised in a rural area I am used to the idea that meat comes from an animal that you either raised on your farm, or shot as a pest that was running around on your farm.
I just do not understand the idea of why animals are in anyway the equal of a human being, and as a consequence why we should not hunt, kill and eat them. Anyone like to try to enlighten me?
BTW there are some nice tips in the entry about preparing rabbit that I didn't know. Cheers
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted May 3, 2002
Whilst searching for something entirely unconnected with all of this I came across that entry I was talking about.
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted May 3, 2002
The Edited Guide does have some absolute gems in it.
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- 1: Primord (Apr 29, 2002)
- 2: ian the sweeper of skies and dream weaver (Apr 30, 2002)
- 3: Primord (May 2, 2002)
- 4: Martin Harper (May 2, 2002)
- 5: Primord (May 2, 2002)
- 6: Primord (May 2, 2002)
- 7: ian the sweeper of skies and dream weaver (May 2, 2002)
- 8: Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. (May 2, 2002)
- 9: GreyDesk (May 3, 2002)
- 10: Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. (May 3, 2002)
- 11: ian the sweeper of skies and dream weaver (May 3, 2002)
- 12: Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. (May 3, 2002)
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