A Conversation for The Thursday Meetup - Reading May 11th 2002
The What, the when, the where, the who and the how... and the Lean, mean and ugly.
Ming Mang Posted Mar 26, 2002
It is more difficult for state school people to get in. I think some colleges claim it's 50-50 - but only something like 2% of all 6th form students go to private schools... 
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Uncle Heavy [sic] Posted Mar 26, 2002
1) wrong
2) currently there are 56% of staeschoolers at oxbridge. that will grow due to government pressure. its far easier for staeschoolers.
3) its 8%
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Ming Mang Posted Mar 26, 2002
Hmm.
Our schools really do seem to have things wrong.
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Chris Tonks Posted Mar 26, 2002
Well, whatever those figures, the probability of me getting into Oxford is very, very low. 
But I'll be dashed if I'm not going to try anyway! 
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Uncle Heavy [sic] Posted Mar 26, 2002
thats the spirit. what are you predicted?
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Ming Mang Posted Mar 26, 2002
I don't think we've actually been predicted anything...
Apart from our baseline grades, that is...
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Chris Tonks Posted Mar 26, 2002
Straight As, which is nice. 
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Ming Mang Posted Mar 26, 2002
Actually while I'm thinking about it... did you see the Times on Sunday? Pembroke College were going to accept a large donation in return for increasing the chances of someone's son getting in..
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Chris Tonks Posted Mar 26, 2002
Wh-, what??!! That's preposterous! Evil! Confounded! Deceitful! Distinctly dislikable! 
The What, the when, the where, the who and the how... and the Lean, mean and ugly.
Uncle Heavy [sic] Posted Mar 26, 2002
fair enough. thats capitalism that is.
The What, the when, the where, the who and the how... and the Lean, mean and ugly.
Uncle Heavy [sic] Posted Mar 26, 2002
whats wrong with that?
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Ming Mang Posted Mar 26, 2002
Don't worry about Pembroke, Prof, it's one that doesn't do Physics.
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Ming Mang Posted Mar 26, 2002
It means it drastically reduces our chances of getting in.
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Chris Tonks Posted Mar 26, 2002
It's, it's... Well, I suppose it is good business sense.
But it doesn't make me feel any better. What if all the rich kids get their parents to pay large sums of money to let them in? There'd be no room for people like myself!
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Chris Tonks Posted Mar 26, 2002
Yeah, wot Ming says.
Is it really? Well that's alright then. You can dash it all to the depths of the San Betian garbage processors for all I care!
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Uncle Heavy [sic] Posted Mar 26, 2002
no there wouldnt. but then, that *is* life. survival of the fittest. social evolution if you will. as a scientist, you have to agree. as a moralist, you dont have to, but a true scientist would argue against morals.
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Chris Tonks Posted Mar 26, 2002
And why aren't either of our two big threads in the 5 Busiest Conversations list yet?
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Chris Tonks Posted Mar 26, 2002
I do agree with you from a scientist's point of view. In fact, it's almost along the same lines as an article I'm going to write soon for my latest website. But it's still not good for me.
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Ming Mang Posted Mar 26, 2002
Why would a true scientist argue against morals?
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Chris Tonks Posted Mar 26, 2002
Well, I don't think they would /all/ the time, but they'd have to to get anything done. Morals get in the way of a lot of things. Animal testing, for instance.
Though I must admit that in that case there were other methods of obtaining the same data if only they'd waiting a while.
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