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Giford Posted Jun 30, 2008
Aw, c'mon guys. Of course he's not going to regenerate. All you New Who fans are soft from lack of cliffhangers The whole point of a cliffhanger is that you think the Doc will die and he doesn't.
I like whoever (Jim?) said that Rose ('the most loyal companion') would have to *choose* 'everlasting death' (i.e. no naughty Captain Jack dying for 30 seconds) to save the Doctor. My guess: the regeneration goes wrong and the Doctor is left in a partial state (thus dragging things out and building tension). Eventually Rose has to sacrifice herself.
Possible alternative: this Copenhagen Key thingy is used to suspend the Regeneration.
Gif
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Kaz Posted Jun 30, 2008
"Either that or they are intending to play Galactic Snooker."
I agree with Jim on the Davros point. Thought he was suitably creepy, with new hand or not.
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IctoanAWEWawi Posted Jun 30, 2008
that was good. Enjoyed it. Esp as I endedup not watching last weeks until friday (about which I would say skip until the last 20/15 mins and it too was good).
I'm wondering if the hand drags the current doc back - we dunno how the regen will affect it. Hey, maybe with all the regen energy we end up with 2 DTs running around the place Or a DT from the hand plus an.other from the main regen. Doubt it though
we are all aware of the anagram that osterhagen makes, yes?
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Jun 30, 2008
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Yes, of course
"The number you have called is not recognised" - the or the
is out of range, obviously
Dr Who.
Alfster Posted Jun 30, 2008
Giford
I know RTD wishes he could call the show 'Dr Who's Companions' but to have the Dr indisposed in the final episode while his companions save the world would be one step too far. He's already done his Companions Wet-dream episode...though obviously more wet-dreaming to come next week for him.
Hopefully, the solution is one mentioned above and RTD will give us even more Dr Who than we could hope for.
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DaveBlackeye Posted Jun 30, 2008
Hmm. This should've been momentous - and it was quite good - but like nearly all RTD's episodes there was no tension; I was left feeling like I didn't really care.
The subwave thing was made-up nonsense. So was Rose's 'miraculous' appearance from another universe. And the teleport backpack thing. And the idea that if everyone phones at once, they'll get through. I find it really hard to actually give a toss when every situation is 'resolved' using only contrived nonsense.
I don't quite understand why the daleks transported the entire earth outside the universe before attacking it with foot soldiers. If Davros wanted all the children of time in one place, why did he hide them all somewhere the doctor couldn't get to? I hope this will be properly explained, but I'm not holding my breath.
The daleks are becoming less and less scary. Lots of shouting "exterminate" while just sitting there, leaving plenty of time for their victims to run away, or for someone with a big gun to inexplicably materialise from somewhere and shoot them. Except the one who took out the doctor with a single shot, completely out of the blue. If DT is leaving, I'm going to be annoyed.
And Dalek Caan spouting wisdom amongst the madness was a direct rip-off of the hybrids from BSG.
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Alfster Posted Jun 30, 2008
I am glad someone else feels the same way I do, DaveBlackeye.
No overall tension. It never really grips me. And although very good it could be so much more.
RTD always seems to go OTT (partly I think due to what CGI can do...and we know what happens when I writer starts writing for CGI rather than story don't we *cough* Lucas *cough*).
We see daleks, thousands of 'em, and we know the Dr and his minions can't destroy ever single one mano-a-kaled therefore some other way is required to sort the problem out...like the Bad Wolf Rose the wonder-woman solution.
And last year with everyone shouting Dr etc.
The year before the big cosmic vacuum cleaner.
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Traveller in Time Reporting Bugs -o-o- Broken the chain of Pliny -o-o- Hired Posted Jun 30, 2008
Traveller in Time reviewing
"Rose is at the Noble house talking in a device asking to transport her to the Tardis location. Still quite magical concidering she is supposed to talk to the Torchwood in her universe. "
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Giford Posted Jun 30, 2008
Yeah, putting the Doctor out of action for more than a few minutes on a season finale would be crazy. I mean, it would almost be as bad as introducing him in a Christmas special during which he is mostly unconscious...
Seriously, though... be braced for potential disappointment next episode - RTD-era Who has always been better at building anticipation than delivering on it (Doctor's Daughter, anyone?).
I do now see why the title was kept hidden - the quick recap DT gave showed that there have been several missing/stolen planets this season, with no-one spotting it.
Liked the ref to Dalek Invasion of Earth though. Thought the Shadow Proclamation was a bit limp - some woman with a bunch of Judoon - what's so scary? Turn them into Faction Paradox and I'll be impressed Likewise the Medusa Cascade. Frankly, it was all a bit too 'lets pile every continuity reference we can into 45 mins' for my tastes.
Can't wait for next week though
Gif
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Orcus Posted Jun 30, 2008
What is this anagram of Osterhagan that is all important then Ictoan. You've lost me there I'm afraid. Sorry if I'm being a bit thick on this.
I did try an anagram converter on it but it was thousands long...
Ornate Shag
Ornate Gash
Were quite good but I doubt they're right...
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Jun 30, 2008
You should try doing it by hand
I just took Rose out - educated guess and was left with the above, the nag.
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DaveBlackeye Posted Jun 30, 2008
>> Seriously, though... be braced for potential disappointment next episode <<
I already have my disappointment bracing frame installed and commissioned; arms, legs, head and expectations will be firmly secured and immobile come 7.00pm next Saturday.
I suspect this year's magical solution will be something to do with the daleks all being genetically identical. The doctor will do something magical to Davros, perhaps using another magic property of his sonic screwdriver, which will affect all the daleks, magically, and there'll be a vast CGI spectacular with all the daleks being sucked, magically, back into the void, before the earth and the other stolen planets are replaced in their correct positions, magically, and the doctor magically regenerates back into himself. Either that or there'll be some kind of time-travel / alternate universe cop-out.
>> Can't wait for next week though <<
Me neither . I'll bet if you were to trawl the backlog, you'd see a nice repeating pattern of anticipation, disappointment, anticipation...with a brief plateau during the Moffat episodes...
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IctoanAWEWawi Posted Jun 30, 2008
helps if you spell it with an 'e' not an 'a' in the penultimate position
BTW, the whole shifting of the Medussa Cascade 1 second out of alignment with the universe and then hiding everything in that 1 second - that's ringing serious bells for me. Where's that from? It's deffo from somewhere but the old brain cells are pretending they don;t know.
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Bright Blue Shorts Posted Jun 30, 2008
"Frankly, it was all a bit too 'lets pile every continuity reference we can into 45 mins' for my tastes."
Someone, somewhere referred to it as "RTD clearing his desk" tying up all the loose ends and continuity.
I guess if River Song doesn't turn up in the finale, she appeared in the library because it was a Moffat story and that gives him the beginning of his era.
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NPY Posted Jun 30, 2008
You mean the mobile number doesn't work!?!?!? They could at least have it going to a computer ,message saying "Hi you're through to the Doc. Clear off while I save the universe" or somethi8ng.
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