A Conversation for Old Announcements: January - September 2011

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Post 101

Malabarista - now with added pony

No, I do quite like working to a goal/parameters - that's why I did architecture, and why I like making smileys. I think it's more that the tasks are a little boring, because they're defined, but not well-defined enough to make them a challenge. (The difference between "write a poem" and "write a sonnet - it has to be technically correct".)

If that makes any sense. smiley - erm


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Post 102

Sol

What's the point of writing/ creating art if you can't break the rules? smiley - biggrin


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Post 103

Milla, h2g2 Operations

*is pleased that the discussion is moving towards improving things* smiley - smiley

smiley - towel


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Post 104

toybox

>>if a challenge were 'provide a picture for this entry'...<<

I remember once a very well respected community artist offered a blob for each Entry which would be written within a month or something, no matter what the subject smiley - winkeye

The underlying idea was to motivate Researchers to write more. Well, it worked for me, and the Entry (A49887977) got a very beautiful illustration smiley - artist


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Post 105

Milla, h2g2 Operations

Hey, would it be possible to offer a blob, and say "Write an entry that fits with this blob"

smiley - towel


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Post 106

Malabarista - now with added pony

Yes, but there have to be some rules to break, and it has to be done so that it looks like you knew what the rules were and were breaking them deliberately, not because you can't do any better - if it's just an "anything goes", that's not really a challenge.

The Stretcher did that well, marking participants on technique as well as content.


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Post 107

Malabarista - now with added pony

We tried that in smiley - thepost, Milla, nobody took us up on it smiley - erm

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Post 108

Milla, h2g2 Operations

Oh... too bad. I wish I felt confident to write (and thus made the time for it), for that was an interesting picture! smiley - bigeyes

smiley - towel


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Post 109

Malabarista - now with added pony

I'm still working on that Entry about the Museum of Jurassic Technology, and that's one of the ways the curator there works. Half his exhibits are made up - if he goes into a museum and likes the text on the plaque next to an exhibit, he writes it down, then makes up his own exhibit to go with it smiley - silly


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Post 110

Sol

Ah, more challenging tasks... smiley - evilgrin Well, Mala, can I suggest you have a go at TC's story one? A87724894

And I think you may just have talked your way into me bugging you to provide a nive meaty task for people to get their teeth into. Would you like to set a visual one or a writing one or something else?

I also like the idea of writing entries for pix, and tbh, Mala, again that is the sort of thing we are planning to do. In fact, great minds and all that, but next month... smiley - laugh


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Post 111

Sol

And can I just reiterate that the intention is to provide a wide variety of tasks, structured, unstructured, open, more proscriptive and so on and so on, so that a)probably not every task will tickle everybody's fancy all the time but b) hopefully there will be the odd task that everybody likes.

And also that I really really would like people to come and contribute tasks, because the more people who do, the better the chance that we will get that variety.


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Post 112

Gnomon - time to move on

>>Half his exhibits are made up

Isn't that the way Wikipedia works?


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Post 113

Sol

There's a Local Museum in deepest Russia near my husband's ancestral village that's like that too. The curator does curating when he isn't perusing his artistic endeavours. My husband, whose family used to be quite big landowners, used to take him bits and pieces of pots and such that he found on what used to be the land they owned, and this guy would put it on display and make something up around it. B's family history is now varied and colourful. I always thought this was a articularly effective way to protest the fact that, pesumably, he couldn't just say 'and two of them were shot, the est sent to Siberia, from where some went to St Petersburg where half died of starvation in the Blockade, and the rest went to Moscow, whereupon they got drafted, deserted, and were sent to the front in a suicide squad.'


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Post 114

Sol

Oh and it's all illustrated with paper mache sculptures.

Or was, it was a while since I've visited.


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Post 115

Malabarista - now with added pony

I can see how Create would be helpful and/or fun for some people, I'm just not one of them. smiley - shrug

At the moment, it's a little like the old Talking Points we had, more writing ideas or assignments than actual challenges. And if it's not a challenge, I'd rather go off and find my own things to write about, at whatever time I want to write about them. I have enough set topic, set deadline writing to do for Uni.


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Post 116

Sol

But then I have found, and this is a teaching observation and an observation of NaJoPoMo(as I think I may have said), that open ended tasks are also capable of provoking people to produce quite astonishing stuff. *shrugs* Many people actually feel stifled by the 'write a sonnet, it must conform to these rules of poetry writing.

However, as I say, variety, and I will be knocking on your door...


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Post 117

Sol

Oh and I'm signing you up for JoPonext yea too. We'll see how you feel about the word challenge at the end of November 2012... smiley - biggrin


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Post 118

Lanzababy - Guide Editor

I just want to add that the normal way of adding Entries into the Guide, via Peer Review has not been altered. Create is an adjunct.

Think of it as another starting point. We also have the Showcase initiative, whereby we actively search for the Entries, of all kinds which exemplify the very best writing that exists.

I am totally supportive of all that Create stands for, but just want to make it clear that it is *as well as* all the existing methods being involved in contributing to the Guide, not a replacement strategy.

Please feel free to be as unfettered as you like, and submit to Peer Review, or the Alternative Writing Workshop as you see fit.

The Guide is for all of us, whether we have experience of writing before, whether we want to write about a subject we already feel comfortable with, are an expert in, or whether we'd prefer having some helpful structure provided, or not.

The worst thing we could do is to never change anything, developing new strategies helps to keep the Guide fresh, even if it does cause a few raised eyebrows here and there.


smiley - zen Lanzababy GuideEditor


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Post 119

Sol

What you mean I CAN't force everyone to paticipate? No? Oh blast.


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Post 120

Blue-Eyed BiPedal BookWorm from Betelgeuse (aka B4[insertpunhere])

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There ya go, Sol, if that's any consolation...
smiley - laugh
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