A Conversation for George Formby - the Entertainer

A617221 George Formby

Post 41

Ormondroyd

I have re-checked, and it seems that in one interview near the end of his life GF said that he didn't really understand music and couldn't read and write properly (which probably merits a footnote).

But there seems to be no evidence at all to support the idea that he couldn't really play his banjo-ukulele. Are you just being a smiley - devil again and trying to wind me up, Orcus?


A617221 George Formby

Post 42

Ormondroyd

A footnote on George's confession of semi-literacy has been added. I've also revised the paragraph about his wife Beryl, which seemed a little harsh in the light of the fact that GF himself said she was the driving force behind his success.


A617221 George Formby

Post 43

Orcus

No not trying to wind you up. In our house we used to have a ukelele-banjo (note the swapping around of the words to what you use - this is what it was called even in the music book we had for this thing - probably not important though) and I even went to a school fancy dress day as George Formby once seeing as we had this thing.

The way I heard it is that he just used to mime it in the films. I have no sources at all for this I'm afraid, I always thought it was reasonably common knowledge. smiley - erm Maybe it was from my parents who couldn't stand him. This *could* be equated to those who don't like certain pop groups now - you know the kind of thing. Ie. Bros couldn't play, neither could Frankie Goes to Hollywood - Posh Spice can't sing - that sort of this smiley - bigeyes


A617221 George Formby

Post 44

HappyDude

Miming a musical scene in films, with the sound being dubbed on latter is a common production technique even today. However, I have never come across any suggestion that George did not write or perform the tunes.

The instrument that George played was the Banjo Ukulele, a hybrid instrument combining the Hawaiian ukulele and the Banjo, which had been invented by Alvin D. Keech and christened as the 'Banjulele'.



A617221 George Formby

Post 45

Ormondroyd

Ah, all is clear now! Yes, Orcus, Formby probably did mime both the playing and singing in his films. HappyDude is quite right (again!) - pre-recording then lip-synching is the standard way of doing musical numbers in films. The reasons are obvious if you imagine the difficulties that would be involved in getting immaculate sound quality while an actor runs around singing in an outdoor location or on an elaborate set.

But there's no evidence that I've seen to suggest that GF didn't usually perform live. I think they'd have noticed in the music halls if he'd tried to get away with miming to tapes! The instrument he played did have several different names, and my online dictionary allows two alternative spellings of ukulele/ukelele; but banjo-ukulele seems to be the most commonly used version, so I think I'll stick with that. smiley - smiley


A617221 George Formby

Post 46

HappyDude

http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A617221

why it not reccomended yet ?


A617221 George Formby

Post 47

Lonnytunes - Winter Is Here



And who says it hasn't been recommended?


A617221 George Formby

Post 48

HappyDude

*nod* smiley - winkeye


A617221 George Formby

Post 49

Ormondroyd

I think I get the idea! smiley - winkeye BTW, HappyDude, you are now duly credited as one of the writers. smiley - ok


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Lonnytunes - Winter Is Here

Now we can all get some sleep... smiley - laugh

Well done people. I'm sure you all know the drill from here on in. Front page stardom in four to five weeks time.


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Post 52

Ormondroyd

(Produces banjo-ukulele again and sings): smiley - musicalnote Happy-go-lucky me... smiley - musicalnotesmiley - biggrinsmiley - bubbly


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Post 53

HappyDude

I noticed the thread has been moved to http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A449877
not
http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A617221

note to sub-ed http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A617221 is the article for editing ?


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Post 54

Ormondroyd

As George would have said: 'Mother'! smiley - yikes

Don't panic - I'll send a message to the Italics via the Scouts' e-mail group. smiley - bigeyes


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Post 55

HappyDude

done it already smiley - winkeye


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Post 56

Ormondroyd

smiley - cool


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Post 58

Ormondroyd

Just like one of George's films - there might be a bit of trouble along the way, but it always turns out nice again in the end. smiley - winkeye
Thanks for sorting that out so quickly! smiley - ok


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HappyDude

smiley - smiley


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Lonnytunes - Winter Is Here

It was a dark and stormy night..... smiley - laugh


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