A Conversation for George Formby - the Entertainer

A449877 George Formby

Post 1

HappyDude

http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A449877

I found this excellent article while looking or something else, unfortunately the author has gone awol smiley - sadface

As far as I can tell this article is compleate & ready with two exceptions

1: there is no mention of the fact that he was extremely popular in the Soviet Union and that in 1943 he was awarded the Order of Lenin.

2: Songs That Won the War(1999) was his final film, a made for TV special that used archive footage.

so what do you all think ..?


A449877 George Formby

Post 2

Ormondroyd

It'd be great to have an Edited Entry on George, and there is some really good information in here, but the Entry reads like a first draft. The first paragraph in particular is a bit messy - it needs to get to the point, i.e. who George Formby was, more quickly.

I propose a move to Writing Workshop. I don't think the Entry is quite up to scratch yet, but it wouldn't take much work to smarten it up and put in your suggestions re the Order of Lenin (!) and the TV film. I'd be happy to do the overhaul myself - after all, George is part of my northern English cultural heritage! smiley - winkeye


A449877 George Formby

Post 3

Orcus

Actually I agree with Happydude - I think this is pretty much done.
I wondered where the George Formby v. Liv Tyler thing came from smiley - laugh.
If you want to rewrite it though Ormy, noone's stopping you smiley - smiley


A449877 George Formby

Post 4

HappyDude

either way suit me

the way i see it the minor work that needs doing "should" be within the scope of the sub-eds job ... but ... if anyone wants to make their job easy I don't think anyone will complain.



For those that wondered the 'Live tyler/George Formy' thing started over at the SMoB fan club smiley - erm


A449877 George Formby

Post 5

Ormondroyd

So what can I do from here. Orcus? Would it be within the rules of Peer Review for me to produce a 'version 2.0' of the Entry and post a link to it here? I wasn't planning to change the original drastically, just to rearrange the first paragraph, take out the typos and bits that aren't in Edited Guide style, and add HappyDude's points of information. Alternatively, I could just post my proposed changes here. smiley - smiley


A449877 George Formby

Post 6

HappyDude

depends on how extensive the changes are ...

(go on just post smiley - smiley)


A449877 George Formby

Post 7

Orcus

Well if it was in the Flea Market....

Anyway, as HappyDude says...

I'm sure the sub-eds have had more changes to make to articles than they will with this one.

*watches the sub-eds go smiley - groan* smiley - winkeye


A449877 George Formby

Post 8

Munchkin

Yep, I agree with the above. It could do with saying who he was before saying where he first appeared and perhaps a bit more on how popular he was (Order of Lenin etc.) but I don't know enough to be able to add any facts. Hey ho said Rolly.


A449877 George Formby

Post 9

Ormondroyd

Actually, I think I've found a way to make Beaker's idea for the introduction work. I've done a bit of websurfing and have found some interesting extra facts, including the correct version of the title of GF's first film. So here's an alternative version of the opening paragraphs. I've kept in as much of the original version as possible, but corrected the mistakes.
Here goes:


George Formby made his showbiz debut at the age of 10, playing a jockey in the silent racing drama 'By The Shortest Of Heads'. From this unpromising start, he went on to become one of the most popular British entertainers of the 20th Century.

Formby's career lasted for 40 years, from his debut in 1921 until his death in 1961. He appeared in 21 hit films, made over 230 records and did much to help keep the British spirit high during the Second World War. He travelled widely throughout Europe and the Middle East during the war, and entertained an estimated three million Allied servicemen and women.

George Formby was born George Hoy Booth in Wigan, Lancashire, UK on 26 May, 1904. His father was a successful music hall entertainer, George Formby Senior (real name James Booth).

George Senior didn't want any of his family to follow him into show business, but he had no such objections to the idea of one of his offspring following a sporting career. It would have been easy for young George to play a jockey in his first film, because he actually was one at the time it was made.

He became an apprentice jockey at the age of seven, and competed in his first professional race when he was ten. However, as George grew up, he became too heavy for horse racing. When his father died in 1921, George decided that he would after all launch a showbiz career.





A449877 George Formby

Post 10

Azara

Hi, Ormomdroyd! I think having bits of the entry in the thread, rather than editing the entry, really makes it very difficult for anyone else to evaluate it as a whole. I think it would be better to copy it into a new entry and update that as yoy go along. Gnomon did this with an entry about the Oboe by Elly. You can see the original entry at http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A433045 (written by Elly) and his new version at http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A585434 (written by Elly, edited by Gnomon) and the Peer Review thread at http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/F71422?thread=124670 Since the entry was recommended and is now pending as http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A596036 (written by Elly and Gnomon, edited by Lochinvar) it looks as if that is an acceptable way to do things. Azara


A449877 George Formby

Post 11

Ormondroyd

Yeah, Azara, I must admit that I thought as much myself. smiley - bigeyes
That's what I shall do, then. Everyone will still be perfectly at liberty to say that they preferred the original version, although if they do so then I may sulk. smiley - winkeye


A449877 George Formby

Post 12

HappyDude

don't forget to post the link


A449877 George Formby

Post 13

Ormondroyd

OK all, here it is: the George Formby Entry version 2.0. The Order of Lenin isn't mentioned because, despite reading several online biographies, I haven't yet been able to find any reference to it. But I will keep looking.

Here you go: http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A617221 .

Hope you'll think it's turned out nice. smiley - smiley


A449877 George Formby

Post 14

HappyDude

I found that in 'The Internet Movie Database' (IMDb) Bio on him smiley - smiley


A449877 George Formby

Post 15

HappyDude

I just put "George Formby Order of Lenin" through Google & got a fair few hits smiley - smiley


A449877 George Formby

Post 16

Ormondroyd

OK, I'm on my way. smiley - smiley


A449877 George Formby

Post 17

Ormondroyd

All right, HappyDude, you win! You're right, and I have amended the revised Entry accordingly. smiley - smiley


A449877 George Formby

Post 18

HappyDude

yay smiley - smiley


A449877 George Formby

Post 19

HappyDude

For those who wish to take there studies of George further why not put a link to the website of the 'George Formby Society' ?
(worth a visit just for the real audio files smiley - smiley)


A449877 George Formby

Post 20

HappyDude

a couple of snippets

In 1939 he was the most popular and highest paid entertainer in the Britain and was estimated to be earning over £100,000 a year.

&

An estimated 100,000 mourners lined the streets of Warrington on the day of the Georges funeral.


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