A Conversation for The H2G2 Telephone Sanitizers

Well thought out, and should be workable

Post 61

RedFish ><>



We cant really know if this idea will work until it is put into practice, so why not begin the mediation without official sanction, as a volunteer group in the same way the GA's are? that way we will be able to see people's willingness to use mediators, because there is a possibility that they might not like it... Then if it works, we can press for it to be made more official with the addition of the arbitration parts.


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Post 62

Martin Harper

I'll agree with that - it's better to change things by evolution than by revolution. I reckon, anyway...


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Post 63

RedFish ><>

If a moderators page is set up, with the names of those willing to moderate on it, and the general idea behind moderation described, then we can work from there, i think.


Well thought out, and should be workable

Post 64

RedFish ><>

er... for "moderator" read "mediator"

whoops, sorry mods, brain lapse there smiley - smiley


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Post 65

Martin Harper

Well volunteered, RedFish... smiley - smiley


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Post 66

7rob7: Give Me Love (Give Me Peace On Earth)

Hi! -

One of the trickier things we're working on right now is developing options for the implementation of the scheme; sort of a 'one from column A and two from column B' approach. The idea of the 'community-input' phase is to either winnow down these ideas before presentation to the Italics; or add to them and finalize a working scheme with the Italics' direct involvment.

I hope to get the latest version up this weekend. (I'd keep my fingers crossed, but it's devilishly hard to type that way... And I need all the help I can get as it is...)

Thanks again.

-7rob7


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Post 67

RedFish ><>

Do you not think the italics are more likely so support an idea if it has already proven that in, at least in part, works?

If the mediation scheme can be setarted beforehand, to test the waters and see how the procedures work then it might be more likely to get the italic's approval later.


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Post 68

a girl called Ben

I am as enthusiastic as the next man, woman or fish, smiley - orangefish and I like the idea of trying it out unofficially first.

However I think a little while spent getting the structures right will minimize the risk of public glitches, and increase the chances of acceptance by the Italics.

As a previous poster said: We need to nail this sucker!

***B


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Post 69

Martin Harper

Well I'm happy to fake a flame war with someone, if Ben wants to have a practice as the first mediator? {not wishing to point you out, but you seem to have some pretty good ideas about how it should work...}

RedFish - care to step into the kitchen? smiley - smiley


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Post 70

Lentilla (Keeper of Non-Sequiturs)

Faking a flame war? It might be better to find one that's already in existence... just to get the experience of putting out real flames.


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Post 71

Willem

I think practice flame-wars can be good! I think we can try and fine-tune our ideas a bit before we start it as an onofficial scheme, and then we can start trying it unofficially, and if it works we can then go to the officials!

We can also look at existing flame wars - anybody know of one?


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Post 72

7rob7: Give Me Love (Give Me Peace On Earth)

Alrighty, then. The latest version of the Arbiter Proposal is up and running. Note that this time I have avoided putting in anything that I might regret later. I think.

Let's see what you think. Thanks.

-7rob7


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Post 73

Monsignore Pizzafunghi Bosselese

hi all smiley - smiley

I worked my way through half of the backlog here now, and it sounds like profound legalese to me. Before touching the bit of how to find neutral mediators/arbitors, I'd like to have the bases covered.

First, how about a containment clause? Once the affair is referred to a med/arb, both parties should agree to keep the discussion confined within the (yet to be defined) boundaries of a med/arb area and not carry on the debate elsewhere, or seek help from others outside the process.


Then, *what* kind of affairs is the process going to be applied to?

a) If it's something which gets the BBC moderation scheme into action then it'll be outside the community since relevant postings will be hidden and invisible. OR - the towers (and technicians behind the scenes) should give sign that there's a possibility to give reading access to the parties and the mediator/arbitor(s) while still hiding the thread from the public.

b) If not, and if all postings are visible, is there some way (could there be some rule) to keep hitherto un-involved researchers away from throwing in their opinion? Should there be such a rule? This isn't a simple question because
(pro) this is still a quite open-minded site, and no-one likes to be excluded from anything
(con) there should be some means to prevent a h2g2 civil war from breaking out.

ummh, I had some points more, but it's getting late now. I'll come back to them smiley - smiley


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Post 74

Tube - the being being back for the time being

Wake-up call: A694118
(Thanks Rob! smiley - ok)


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