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TRiG (Ireland) A dog, so bade in office

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HonestIago

That's just confirmed my suspicions - Rillington is Spike. I'd thought he might have been, but wasn't certain.


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Thorn

I used to be kind of homophobic a bit...
but have gotten better about that. It... I didn't know much better about it when I was a younger teenager. However, not that I am 20, and... in matters of responsibility and so on, heck. I have a (small number) of friends who are/were/or are considering being homosexual and well... to tell the truth of it,... that's their business, and I'm pretty much fine with it. I just... wish I knew a little bit more about LGBT subculture in my own country a bit more than I do. Hmm...
Best way to fight prejudice... is to educate yourself. <- I forget who says that but for me at least it seems to have held true somewhat.

smiley - sorry for any smiley - bleep I may have said before... & in the past... smiley - headhurts/smiley - doh+smiley - footinmouth


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Thorn

I made a typo.
Meant to put, however, now that I am...
etc. etc.

Argh...
Made a smiley - bleep of myself twice.smiley - groan

but seriously, there are good and bad gay people, just like with heteros, and anybody who tries to say otherwise I wouldn't want to vouch for necessarily. smiley - tea


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Post 405

the_lyniezian

What constitutes homophobic anyway? I don't think it really ought to have anything to do with expressing a moral viewpoint on the practising of homosexuality, which many of us (I personally am an evangelical Christian, albeit perhaps a poor example of one) believe to be wrong. I do however agree that any comment which is purposefully and clearly abusive or hateful is wrong, and, for the Christian, is entirely the worng attitude. We are called to love-which extends to all people, nor to judge another, at least not outside the church (see Matthew 7:1-2, Luke 6:37, Romans 2:1, 1 Corinthians 5:12?) as we are all equally as bad, and it is God's place ultimately to judge. Plus it is probably unfair to single out a particular group of people as being particularly bad, as all of us are, according to the Bible, in some measure bad (I most definitely include myself in this category).
'As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one."' (Romans 3:10-12, NIV) (And it would seem from that that turning away from God is bad in itself.) The only way anyone can be made righteous is through the blood of Jesus.

Now I see no reason to condemn anyone for merely having homosexual leanings, so far as those inclinations are natural and unavoidable. But as far as Christian teaching, such as I hold true, goes, our nature is also fallen and corrupt, and in need of God to change it. The same goes even if one is heterosexual, for example, it might be natural for a straight man to stare at an attractive woman, or desire to have sex with her, but it is clearly not right if it means cheating on his wife, or making her jealous, let alone anything else.

In short, I don't think it is really justifiable for anyone to be condemned as homophobic merely for expressing a critical moral viewpoint on homosexuality as a practice, but from the viewpoint of Biblically based Christianity, to be deliberately hateful or judgemental is equally wrong. (Sad it is if some who profess to be Christians don't behave that way, but please don't tar us all with the same brush!)

Moreover, it would seem that the desire to avoid offence has produced in modern society the sort of political correctness that can, at times, erode free speech. Laws and regulations can, whilst admirable in their efforts to produce a fair and just society, can be abused, especially if there are no clearly defined limits on what costitutes an offence. Merely that a supposed victim percieves it as such (as I think is the case under British law) seems to be open to abuse- A thinks B is being homophobic/racist/whatever and can therefore press charges. (Hopefully, in practice, it isn't that simple!)

Now I dare say some will not agree with my views, and I hope I have not caused too much offence. I realise it is impossible to please all the people all the time, and what I have written I intended to be reasonable and in a spirit of love (I hope!). As for being long-winded I deinitely apologise, since I seem unable to get my point across in a simple and concise manner. Nobody's perfect!


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Thorn

What I mean is why is it reguarded as alright in the mainstream of my culture to make fun of homosexuals when by the same token they and other people don't make fun of my asexuality to the same extent?

If you make fun of anyone too harshly it stops being humor no?
There's a line between that and personal attack verbally, yes? smiley - erm

smiley - online2long I brood too much. smiley - footinmouth


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Post 407

the_lyniezian

I guess people feel threatened by homosexuality- maybe some striaght people may worry that a gay person may 'come on to' them? That which people fear they are likely to deride, I suppose. I for one disagree with people manking fun of anyone specifically, if at all in the context of people groups (including blondes, Irish, Essex girls, viola players etc.) (Well, I like reading jokes about viola players, actually, but don't agree with them entirely...but all that's beside the point...) I speak from experience, having been made fun of myself (often my Dad seems to be the culprit, regarding my nose and the usual teenage acne problem when I was of that age- hence (as my real name's Richard) 'Spotted Dick'!) and finding it annoying. If not taken in good humour, people could get offended, and anything offensive to the recipient just isn't funny, which some people sadly fail to get.

(For the record I don't play the viola. But I don't mind listening to it.)


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Rillington

Homophobia is literally defined as the fear of homosexuality but the word's meaning ahs bene extended to cover anti-homosexual acts and feeling making the word the anti-gay equivalent of racism. In fact, the more accurate word is apparently heterosexist rather than homophpobic for thsoe who consider homosexuals to be inferior and those behaving in a homophobic way are actually being heterosexist.


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Reefgirl (Brunel Baby)

smiley - huh Eh???


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Primeval Mudd (formerly Roymondo)

I'll fess up: I yikesed the first onem the second went of its own accord. I'm not entirely sure what they said (the sentence structure was somewhat random) but they seemed less than pleasant and were a tad on the sweary side.


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Effers;England.

This is the first time I've had the 'pleasure' of coming across Baz.

I thought they appeared to be pretty dammed nasty Roy, but agreed fairly nonsensical as well. One can only pity people that must be so utterly inadequate in real life that they think themselves big and clever to cringe pathetically behind a computer screen and spout homophobia.

I saw them and didn't yikes as is my general policy, but I'm glad you did. They left a nasty taste in my mouth.

Oh what season of goodwill it's been.


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Primeval Mudd (formerly Roymondo)

I really couldn't figure out what they were going on about but I think, if one closed one eye, squinted through the other and wore sentence-rearrangement spectacles, he was saying that homosexuality is learned via grooming.

So, to shatter another stereotype: I'm really quite gay but well groomed is one thing I ain't.smiley - winkeye


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Effers;England.

smiley - laugh Likewise Roy.


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bazadata

You see, that's the problem as far as I can see. You might be sitting at an Internet Cafe with feathers in your hair taking the piss. But the fact is. You are a Homo.


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Primeval Mudd (formerly Roymondo)

Well spotted. Give yourself a pat on the back.


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Effers;England.

This looks like an interesting little tete a tete developping. Excuse me if I unsub. Bon chance, Roy.


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Primeval Mudd (formerly Roymondo)

I can't be bothered with it either.


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