A Conversation for Talking Point: Dogs or Cats?

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Post 1

Trout Montague

As pets, they are illegitimate, consuming resources at levels of obscene luxury while children starve and other 'deserving' species go extinct.

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Post 2

Mort - a middle aged Girl Interrupted

I could name a lot of things that could be argued do the same thing.

Space race, Government 'expenses', paying for cosmetic surgery on the NHS, producing the food we do instead of producing basic needs is beef farming when maize/wheat/grain/corn farming can feed more people etc etc

And so on.


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Post 3

2legs - Hey, babe, take a walk on the wild side...

But, if pet ownership deminished, it wouldn't alter a single child dieing of starvation in teh third world, or of a curable disease, tehy're unconnected things, a connection could be drawn with almost anything and such 'bad things'. Why do we all have hundreds of pounds worth of computers in our homes when that'd be enough to immunise hundreds of people in devloping country's and prevetnign many deaths?; WEll it wouldn't make any differnce there are other reasons and causes as for why that is the case; Largely because people dieing in third worl country's from malnutrition and disease suits capitalism in the developed world, so long as it remains in the interest of capitalist developed world country's for this to continue then so it will continue, until such time as it is in the interst (and by interest we mean to the financial gain of), of developed, capitalist country's, to end such things there won't be any change on the matter. AT the end of the day, its all about 'making ourselves feel good', that 'good factor' we feel when donating a small sum of money to some charity or other, 'guilt money', which makes no differnce in its self, and merely perpetuates the idea that we can as individuals make a differnce when our governments have it in their interst for things to remain exactly as they are.


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Post 4

Trout Montague

Fair points, both.

Can't seem to get to grips though with the oft relied-upon judgement which states that "I own a pet and you don't so that means I love animals more than you".

Surely owning a (carnivorous) pet means condemning even more animals (cows and fish mostly I suspect) to death than "necessary" just to sustain oneself?


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Post 5

2legs - Hey, babe, take a walk on the wild side...

Agreed about that 'animal lover' thing that often goes seemingly hand-in-hand with pet ownership.... Lets face it some pet owners are so damn irresponsable they're not even fellow human lovers let alone animal lovers smiley - huh Consider myself an animal lover, mainly because I like bits of certain animals cooked up and put on a plate... but thats a differnt storey smiley - winkeyesmiley - erm


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Post 6

Rev Nick { Only the dead are without fear }

I certainly cannot speak for anyone else. But I find so much benefit in having a pair of cats, most of it beyond words. I'm essentially a farm kid, and have had an affinity towards nearly all animals all of my life. But living in a small'ish city, I obviously don't have room for the menagerie I'd love to give home to. So we content ourselves with a pair, one that was less than 2 pounds and starving on the streets and the other literally collected from a landing caused by a boot. To myself, my wife, my child and grandkids, they ARE a part of the family.

And even with our meagre resources, we still do what we can for every responsible and useful charity that passes our door.


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Post 7

2Cool4Fools (constantly striving to add a bit of warmth & color to a cold, drab world)

As pets, they are illegitimate, consuming resources at levels of obscene luxury while children starve and other 'deserving' species go extinct.
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Well, that's One way of looking at the question smiley - rolleyes


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Post 8

AwfullyColonel

Surely you could say that having a child is a waste of resources, when the money you spend could go towards feeding a child who is already alive. But the point is that they are something people can love. Having a pet doesn't make you stupid or uncaring, same way having a family doesn't.


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Post 9

Trout Montague

Surely I could? No, in fact, quite assuredly I couldn't.

Post 8 seems is based on the premise that a pet is a valid placebo recipient for human affection. The corollary is that anyone with a family shouldn't require a pet "to love". All those who have both are just accessorizing.


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Post 10

TerryG*09*

dogs are the obvious answer, cats dont have emotion or a home they just wonder around looking for food from who ever is willing to give them some


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Post 11

TerryG*09*

Mort - A Girl, Interrupted, r u a vegi??


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