A Conversation for h2g2 Feedback - Feature Suggestions

Editors Thread Lock option

Post 1

U173821

Suggestion: The ability for Editors to lock a thread so that no further posts may be made to it.

Reason: There are some threads, always have been and probably always will be, that have outlived their usefullness and which only seem to attract differing levels of trolling. A thread lock would prevenmt further inflammatory posts. This would, perhaps, prevent the ressurection of old arguments where everything has been said.

Not too sure about this idea, it is common in a lot of forums, but that doesn't on its own make it a good thing. The thread would still be there for all to see and read should they so wish, but it strikes me that there are one or two threads to which there can be no further meaningful or constructive comment.

If used, it would be a last resort, I wouldn't imagine it being used very often at all. A very light touch would have to be used to prevent criticisms of censorship and nannying.
Indeed, in my 5 years (smiley - yikes) on HooToo I have probably only come across a couple of such threads. But it could be used to stop the sort of 'and another thing' type posts, or pointless oneupmanship where the posts fall below the level of punishable trolling, yet still have an aggravating and provocative stance to those involved, or near to, the original issues.
On the other hand, it might just cause the arguments to flare up again elsewhere. Not sure, but if I don;t mention, it can;t be discussed can it?

Anyway, had a quick check and didn;t see it suggested by others so hopefully this can be considered. Of course, for all I know the DNA engine can already do this!

p.s - re: the main page for feedback/features. Dunno about you, but I can't see a "'Discuss' button" anywhere on the page...


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Post 2

There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho

I can think of at least one group of h2g2 troublemakers whose threads should all be locked up tighter than a camel's whatsit in a sandstorm.

::COUGH:: Thursday! ::COUGH::

smiley - winkeye


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Post 3

Traveller in Time Reporting Bugs -o-o- Broken the chain of Pliny -o-o- Hired

Traveller in Time smiley - tit trying to post to certain Forums
"I do not know if it can be used for seperate Threads, there is such option for Forums however.

There are several levels of blocking from posting. Like you suggested, removing the 'start a new conversation' would be the most friendly. ( in brunel it is there on < <./>FeedBack</.> > smiley - huh)
Have a look at < <./>/dna/mb6music/</.> > smiley - winkeye,they are on time restriction.

And the very last resort is blocking all new threads by redirecting them to the void. "


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Post 4

Jim Lynn

We can do this already. But so far, we've got by without having to do it.


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Post 5

U173821

#Ah right, cheers Jim. Might have a suggestion for you then, but I feel might are laready ahead of me on that...

Purely out of interest, and without quoting threads, has it ever been used?


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Post 6

Jim Lynn

Unless you count the Election forum, which was closed for the duration of the election, no, it has never been used.


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Post 7

U173821

ah, no, I meant thread closure not forum closure. I.e the idea I posted smiley - winkeye
The scalpel approach instead of the hatchet!

p.s. you are on overtime at the moment I hope!


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Post 8

Jim Lynn

Well, closure of a forum requires closure of all the threads in it, as well as preventing new conversations being started. If I'd said no, we've never used it, I'm sure somebody would have pointed this out, so I thought I'd be accurate.

And I don't get overtime, but then, posting to h2g2 isn't my real job anyway.


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Post 9

U173821

Hmmm, I don't want to belabour a point here, so let me know if I am, but I feel I am being misunderstood. For example, I am not suggesting one should close AskH2G2 because of one bad thread. But if 1 thread was consistently attracting negative and unconstructive posts, I am suggesting that you could close *just that thread* within the forum. The forum would stil be active and allow new posts and new conversations but the particular thread would no longer allow additional replies to it.

" but then, posting to h2g2 isn't my real job anyway"
But answering my silly questions about how to improve the tech is, isn't it?


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Post 10

Jim Lynn

I'm not misunderstanding you. The same technology which is used to close the messageboards can be used to close an individual thread. So we can do what you asked. But the only example of it having been used was to close a whole forum. Replying to an existing thread and starting a new conversation are independent actions and can be independently controlled. We wouldn't have to close Ask h2g2 in order to close one of the threads within it.


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Post 11

GreyDesk

Mmmm... interesting. This broadens my knowledge of what can and can't be done hereabouts. I thought that the shut down of a particular thread ought to be independent of its forum, as it seemed to be the logical way of designing things. But I wasn't sure of it until now. Cheers smiley - smiley


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Post 12

Zak T Duck

I gather the ability is there already if necessary . I mean if they can pemanently lock entire sites then I'm sure locking individual threads is possible. However, I wouldn't like to be the one getting backlash from the regular contributors of the 3N thread. You should just see their reaction from just idly talking about it!


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Post 13

Zak T Duck

smiley - doh There goes me not reading the entire thread again


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Post 14

Traveller in Time Reporting Bugs -o-o- Broken the chain of Pliny -o-o- Hired

Traveller in Time smiley - tit on top
"It is not just you, it must be something in the air preventing nearly everyone from reading the previous postings.

Or perhaps there is a NOP field protecting some threads already smiley - weird"


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Post 15

I'm not really here

I'd like to point out (having worked on a site where we closed threads) that for every thread that's closed, two (at least) appear in its place. One to say 'why did they have to close the thread' and one to continue the discussion - despite that being an 'official offence'.

I also use sites that have the same problem. Someone closes a thread, and someone else immediately starts a new one to complain about it, or to get in one last post on the subject.


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Post 16

U173821

Thanks all for the replies.
As GreyDesk said, interestiong to know that it is possible, although Mina's post reflects the concerns I had about the idea, and explains why it isn't done. Always a hard decision on how to go about these things!
Ta!


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