h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Entry: The Station by Station Guide to the London Underground - Victoria Line - A3660365
Author: AlexAshman (Scout) - U566116


I've added many many details to this since the last time it was in Peer Review - I think it's properly ready for PR now.

I don't know much about these stations, but the entry looks ok!

I don't think you need to footnote 'at the time of writing' with 2005, as the entry will have a date on, so it's unnecesary.

Ok I've removed the footnote.

Excellent work - quite a feat these LU entries.

I have a few comments. Firstly though "it takes just over half an hour to travel from Walthamstow to Brixton" ha ha ha ha!! In theory maybe, but in real life what's a more realistic time-frame?

"The main line station was the scene of the King's Cross fire in 1987, and a remembrance plaque can still be seen in the tube station. The fire lead to the replacement of all wooden steps and the introduction of a ban on smoking throughout the network. " -> This station was the scene of the King's Cross fire in 1987, that apparently started under a wooden esculator coming up from the Picadilly line. The fire lead to the replacement of all wooden escalator steps with metal ones and the introduction of a ban on smoking throughout the network. A remembrance plaque can still be seen in the tube station.

" The Northern line was originally formed by combining the City & South London Railway with the Charing Cross, Euston & Hampstead Railway. Euston originally featured a pair of stations, one owned by the City & South London Railway, and one by the Charing Cross, Euston & Hampstead Railway" -> The Northern line was originally formed by combining the City & South London Railway with the Charing Cross, Euston & Hampstead Railway. Euston originally featured a pair of stations, one owned by each of the rail companies.

"Although there used to be a subway underneath Euston Road from just outside Warren Street station, it is now closed." -> There used to be a subway underneath Euston Road from just outside Warren Street station, but this closed in 19xx. [if you can find a date, if not 'this is now closed']

"Trains from Waterloo towards the south usually stop here, and so those travelling across London to catch a train south from Waterloo have two options. These are the Victoria line to Vauxhall station, or the Northern and then Waterloo & City lines to Waterloo. The latter journey may take longer, but Waterloo is a much larger station with more amenities. Also, catching trains heading south from Waterloo at peak times can be difficult, as some trains fill up completely at Waterloo, leaving little or no room for people at Vauxhall to crowd on." -> Stopping suburban overgroung trains from Waterloo stop here, and so those travelling across London to catch a train south from Waterloo may have journey options - the Victoria line to Vauxhall station or the other underground lines to Waterloo. The latter journey may take longer, but Waterloo is a much larger station with more amenities. Catching trains heading out of Waterloo at Vauxhall during peak times can be difficult, as some trains fill up completely at Waterloo leaving little or no room for more people.

"In July 2005, a Brazilian electrician called Jean Charles de Menezes was shot dead by plain clothes police officers on a train at Stockwell after being wrongly identified as a terrorist." -> In July 2005, a Brazilian electrician called Jean Charles de Menezes was shot dead by plain clothes police officers on a train at Stockwell after being mistakenly suspected of being a terrorist.

Keep up the good work : )

ooops typo in my penultimate comment overgroung -> overground

Talking about the Kings Cross fire, when the fire investigators looked under the escalators, they found proof that a number of other fires had started in the same way but had burnt themselves out.

Ok I've made the changes

Great to see this back in PR

"The latter journey may take longer, but Waterloo is a much larger station with more amenities."

This sentence is repeated in the section on Vauxhall.

Oops

The Russell Square bombing bit for Kings Cross doesn't feel right.

If you're going to include it, why not all three of the bombs as all three were on trains from Kings Cross. I can see how just Russell square is more relevant to this entry, as it was only a few hundred yards from Kings Cross, whilst the others had travelled for several stations down their lines.

It also killed exactly 26 people, plus the bomber. Also mention should be made that it was a suicide bomber and not your common-or-garden bomb in a bag scenario.

Ok now?

Aye

And I might be wrong, but wasn't the train that exploded inbetween King's Cross and Russell Square actually travelling Southbound on the Piccadilly Line?

Paully

Sorry - this is really quite difficult to put clearly so I haven't bothered explaining it in the entry.

The guide consists of all the stations on the London Underground, with each line except the Circle and W&C lines having its own entry (or entries where they need to be split up). However, some stations lie on more than one line, and so to avoid overlap each station only features once in the guide, with its position on other lines referring the reader to the entry which has the full details.

eg There are four places in the guide where K's Cross St.P will be mentioned - Victoria, Piccadilly, Northern, Metropolitan - and so it turns out that I've put the details in the Victoria line entry.

I intend to complete the entries in the following order:

Abandoned Stations
Victoria Line
East London Line
Northern Line: High Barnet and Bank Branches
Northern Line: Edgware and Charing Cross Branches
Northern Line: Southern Branch
Piccadilly Line
Bakerloo Line
Jubilee Line
Hammersmith & City
Metropolitan Line: East of Harrow
Metropolitan Line: West of Harrow
District Line: East of South Kensington
District Line: West of South Kensington
Central Line
Main Page

Hope this makes sense

Oh, but yes it was southbound (thanks)

An excellent read and I look forward to the rest in the series.

I think you need to be a little clearer with a definition somewhere of "interchange". I would suggest just before the second paragraph, where you use the term several times and it's implicit what you mean, but I'd like to see it explained in a more explicit way for people unfamiliar with the system. Just a sentence would do. Your entry may attract readers who are coming to London for the first time.

Frank Pick (1878 - 1941) - the man who helped build the London Underground public transport system, was born in Spalding, Lincolnshire.

Just thought you might like to know that snippet, even if you don't add it. (He's got a mention in my upcoming entry on Lincolnshire)

Great entry AA

P.S. Wilma has posted a question at the old PR thread, attached to the entry, you might like to invite her over here?

I've actually put a definition of 'interchange' on the Main Page of the project - it reads thus:

"It has most likely caused many people a moderate amount of confusion as to why some stations are marked as interchanges and others not. For instance, you can change at both Rayners Lane and Uxbridge1, and yet while Rayners Lane is an interchange station, Uxbridge is not. The following rules are thought to be used in determining whether a station is an interchange:

If the station is attached to a National Rail station, it is an interchange.
If all of the lines of a passing through a station are served by the same platforms, then the station is not an interchange.
If some of the lines or branches passing through a station are served by completely separate platforms, then the station is an interchange.
If the station is divided into two parts with the same or different names, but is linked by an enclosed passage, then the stations are grouped together as an interchange.
If two stations have the same name, but are completely separate, then either can be an interchange but they are not grouped together.
If two trains can leave from the same platform, but immediately follow different lines thereafter, then the station is an interchange.
Both Piccadilly and Metropolitan line trains can leave from any platform at Uxbridge, following the same route afterwards, and so Uxbridge is not an interchange. Rayners Lane is in the same situation except for the fact that the lines split immediately after the station, thereby making it an interchange."

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By the way THE MAIN PAGE IS AT A3363833

Oh and GB