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Post 1

Mina

Entry: Topic of the Week: The Great Fire of London, UK - A3393614
Author: Mina - U290

Something that came out of a Topic of the Week, I've put it together into one entry. Any comments? Anything I've missed out? Anyone want to add anymore?


A3393614 - Topic of the Week: The Great Fire of London, UK

Post 2

Woodpigeon

This is a superb entry. smiley - applause Well done Mina for putting it together. Your passion for London really comes across and I always read with great interest your articles.

If you are going to mention that Hooke was the surveyor, it might be worth mentioning that Wren was the architect?

Also, I think the Plague was blowing itself out at this stage anyway. I'm not sure if it was as simple as the rats all being driven away. For still unknown reasons, the Plague started to retreat eastwards across Europe from the late 17th century onwards.

I'll take a further look if I get a chance.

smiley - peacedoveWoodpigeon


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Post 3

Emmily ~ Roses are red, Peas are green, My face is a laugh, But yours is a scream

Nicely written informative Entry Mina smiley - smiley

Though I have one very minor point, there should be a coma in the date - 2 September, 1666

And one question smiley - erm why is it in PR with a blob? We tell authors who submit Entries with a blob, "Sorry you'll have to remove the blob" If 'Talking Points Entries' are submitted with blobs, it will make the no blobs rule difficult. Sorry, but IMO it should be same rule for all. smiley - smiley

smiley - run before the smiley - tomatos and smiley - flans are thrown.

Emmily
smiley - bluebutterfly


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Post 4

Mina

Comma added, comment about Wren added as well. smiley - ok

What should I do about the plague bit then? I added it because if I didn;t someone would be bound to mention it. Shall I just remove it?

Emmily, this has a blob because it's a Topic of the Week. They start with a specially made one on the 'come and post some info' page (which I've turned into an entry) and then makes an appearance on the Edited Entry. So I just left the blob on to save fiddling about with the GuideML and losing track the blob number, or whatever it is they use these days for the sub or the eds to have to track down again

I can take it out if it's confusing - it's only laziness really. But it will end up with this picture on it anyway.


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Post 5

Lash LeRue

Top notch,but one cant but feel sorry for all those vvveeerrryyy suprised/roasted pidgeons...less so for the rats.


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Post 6

Emmily ~ Roses are red, Peas are green, My face is a laugh, But yours is a scream

smiley - ok Mina I can't even get the name right, smiley - diva it's 'Topic of the Week' (It says so, just above this box smiley - laugh)

The reason I mentioned it, was because there is an Entry in PR with a blob, I'm involved in the thread of it, and the author has been asked to remove the blob, but hasn't.

I do think maybe it's confusing, particularly as we're trying to encourage more reviewers to PR, they'll see this one with a blob, and assume they're ok to use, and it could cause an influx of Entries with blobs. smiley - erm

You don't even need to remove it Mina, just use a little smiley - magic and trickery, using the Comment tag (smiley - erm I think that's what it's called.)

Emmily
smiley - bluebutterfly


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Post 7

BigAl Patron Saint of Left Handers Keeper of the Glowing Pickle and Monobrows

BTW Ref surveyors and architects: does Hooke have to have the word 'surveyor at each end of his name i.e. twice in one sentence?

smiley - biggrin


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Post 8

BigAl Patron Saint of Left Handers Keeper of the Glowing Pickle and Monobrows

Ooops smiley - sorry You've already corrected that since I first read and noticed it about 4 hours ago!

I would leave the bit about 'plague' in, and , I think, it needs to be mentioned that the Freat Fire followed on oon the heels of the plague. Very interesting and informative Entry, Mina.
smiley - ok
smiley - biggrin>


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Post 9

Mina

I spotted that when I put in the bit about Wren.

The plague was the year before - dying out over the winter until it was virtually gone by the beginning of the year.


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Post 10

Woodpigeon

The plague should definitely be left in, as it is of considerable note that not one, but two major disasters hit the city in the space of 18 months or thereabouts. Some people make a connection between the two, but others do not, so in any case it would be useful to point this out.


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Post 11

Montana Redhead (now with letters)

Mina,

Looks lovely to me. Nice facts and figures, etc. I'd leave in the part about the plague.

Not much to say. Oral exams coming up, and I'm a wee bit knackered.


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Post 12

Mina

Thanks Montana. smiley - ok


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Post 13

Mina

Updated the bit about the plague. <ok?


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Post 14

Woodpigeon

smiley - ok


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Post 15

Lbclaire

Well done for bringing this all together, Mina. Looks good. smiley - ok Just a few typos and things:

One other person died in the fire itself, one person died of smoke inhalation, and two others who fell into cellars while trying to rescue their belongings => One other person died in the fire itself, one person died of smoke inhalation, and two others died when they fell into cellars while trying to rescue their belongings.

In the 17th Century the most common building material was timber, covered with pitch and with thatched roofs. Straw was laid on floors and stored in outhouses and stables. => In the 17th Century the most common building material was timber covered with pitch. Buildings had thatched roofs, and straw was laid on floors and stored in outhouses and stables.

which included riverside warehouses and the wharves. Packed with the sailors tools of the trade – timber, spars, ropes, tar and turpentine. => which included riverside warehouses and the wharves. These were packed with the sailors' tools of the trade – timber, spars, ropes, tar and turpentine.

These not only burned well and intensely hot, but cut off anyone who would try to fight the fire from the Thames – the only source of water that would have been large enough for the job. => These not only burned well and with intense heat, but also prevented anyone from trying to fight the fire from the Thames – the only source of water that would have been large enough for the job.

Traditionally fires were put out by local people with leather buckets of water and beating them out with staves => Traditionally fires were put out by local people, using leather buckets of water, and beating out the fire with staves.

Axes, ropes and iron fire hooks were used to pull down nearby buildings if the fire threatened to spread, but much of the equipment was neglected and rotten. With access the Thames denied, there were not enough water supplies to make what was available of any use. => Axes, ropes and iron fire hooks were used to pull down nearby buildings if the fire threatened to spread. However, much of the equipment was neglected and rotten, and with no access to the Thames, there were not enough water supplies to make use of what was available.

St Paul’s Catherdral => St Paul’s Cathedral

Samuel Pepyes => Samuel Pepys

and £2,000,000 was spend on rebuilding St Paul’s. => and £2,000,000 to rebuild St Paul’s.

owner’s pockets => owners' pockets

realized => realised

Robert Hubert a French silversmith and watchmaker confessed to starting the fire. => Robert Hubert, a French silversmith and watchmaker, confessed to starting the fire.

It reappeared in 1689 when Protestant rulers came back to the throne and finally removed for good in 1831. => It reappeared in 1689 when Protestant rulers came back to the throne, and was finally removed for good in 1831.

smiley - ok

smiley - smiley Lbclaire


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Post 16

Spiff


Hi all,

looks great.

Just one technical point for you: the link to entry on The Monument seems to have gone awry:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/%20A1105426


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Post 17

Mina

A stray space I see, I'll fix that shortly, those 'few' smiley - yikes typos have scared me off for today. smiley - run

I'll have some time to give the entry on Thursday if I don't get to it before that.


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Post 18

slightlyfoxed

Great entry on a very interesting topic. Well done 'an all that. smiley - ok


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Post 19

Lbclaire

Oops! smiley - sorry Mina. There really aren't that many, I've just quoted whole sentences so it looks a lot...

smiley - erm Lbclaire


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Post 20

Smij - Formerly Jimster

Just a note on the blobs - the only reason we suggest Edited Guide pics don't get blobs is that at this stage they'll be blobs for an existing entry while we might decide that the entry deserves its own one. However, in this case, the graphic was designed for this very entry, there isn't another in the Edited Guide with that blob, so it's okay to remain, as with any other Topics of the Week that anyone offers to collate for us.

In other words, while for most entries removing the blob saves us time doing that ourselves, in this case, leaving it where it is saves us having to put it back on later smiley - smiley


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