A Conversation for h2g2 On the Move - The Vision

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Post 41

Kadu Flyer

Just scanned all the above so maybe I missed something but has anyone else apart from me tried veiwing the regular H2G2.com on a Psion 5? I have but it seems to have problems downloading the really big forums and locks up and demands a reset. Apart from that I think it is closer to the future than WAP phones, keyboards and large(ish) screens make life a lot easier.

KF


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Post 42

Irving Washington - Gone Writing

Two words... Conspiracy Theory. This may be the clue Afgncaap5's been looking for!

~Irving, who likes being cryptic


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Post 43

Cambridge

Some people have been saying here that the main problem will be getting content, and I agree. However, this proposes a circular argument. People will not want to join up and invest in the technology until we have the content, and we won't have the content until people have invested in the technology to be able to compose entries in the field. Can anyone think of a solution to this? also, I think that the best option for a handheld devive might be a variant on the Palm V, because then even the buttons can be updated over the Net, any the keyboard problems are gone due to handwriting recognition. How long before we see 'Option Mode Standby'? smiley - smiley


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Post 44

26199

The solution could be to offer cut-price 'researcher units', whereby early h2g2 users get cheap hand-held units on the condition that they actually write some articles for the thing. It'd mean some fairly major investment on someone's part, but nobody ever said that making h2g2 a worldwide phenomenon would be *easy*...

26199


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Post 45

Zed

I don't honestly thing TDV are going to get involved in manufacturing consumer 'lectronics smiley - sadface

But WAP is a start, but I agree PalmPilots are a much better medium, for where we all want to go.

H&K
Z


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Post 46

Smiley Ben

Yeah! I agree! Personally, I think WML is dead in the water - it's come far too late. Before it's picked up by a sensible number of sources, we'll have very cheap web-pads that can cope with full HTML. Of course, that doesn't mean WAP is dead, but there you go...


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Post 47

Wrathchild

Ignore me why don't you all smiley - winkeye


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Post 48

Smiley Ben

Writing on a WAP phone is never going to happen - you're right.

Palms, with character recognition, or other webpads with voice recognition, for example, may well work, but the whole mobile phone thing is never gonna happen...


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Post 49

Wrathchild

My god this sounds complicated stuff


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Post 50

Zed

Yeah, but it's a step up from banging rocks together!

Oops, sorry TechnoYokel, that's what you do for a living smiley - winkeye

H&K
Z


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Post 51

Wrathchild

?


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Post 52

Zed

...from H2G2 the book 'A big hi to all intelligent life out there, and to everybody else, the secret is to bang rocks together guys'. OK?

And TechnoYokel builds stone walls for a living.

H&K
Z


From Pessimism to Optimism and Beyond

Post 53

Beeblefish

Okay.

So here we all are, and I want respond to many questions here -- so here I go.

1. Damn right the dream is possible.

2. Why shouldnt TDV go into production of handsets -- or at least partner up with some company that does.

3. The technology will come -- and by then -- well, we might just have the content there to make it popular.

4. Ive mentioned this before -- there is a portable keyboard on the market called the Stowaway that is full-sized with flat buttons and folds up to something about deck-of-card-sized -- there are also smaller keyboards that use fewer buttons and multiple shift keys -- which, though they may seem ackward at first, can actually, with pratice, allow you to type even faster that with these.

5. Cambridge, man, you have to learn to think outside the box. I was sitting in a cafe today and decided to review it -- so I took out my multi-use textual and graphic recording device and my ultra-trimlined graphite text inducer (a notepad and pencil) and wrote it. Later -- and this is the tricky bit, I entered it into the Guide at home!!

6. I think a radical change of emphasis might be needed to really improve the chance of the Guide project flying. I think people should stop thinking so much in terms of writing about generalities exclusively, (though we still need entries on flying, the colour blue and diving) and should do some serious focusing on where they are what is around them. Personally, I am taking the Ford Prefect aproach . .. go to New York -- write all about new york -- everything, every cab, every corner, every newspaper etc etc etc until you are physically spent -- submit everything, and move on.
Some of its shite, some of its gold, the gold will be highlighted, buthte shite is still there and still useful. This would use the diversity of our researcher base to its greatest advantage. Personally, I intend to chronical my hometown of peterborough, ontario, Canada -- now watch my page. My goal, by hte end of the summer is that if any of you come to this town, you can find your way around, know where to go and what to do, and what not to do.
By the way, and this is for Mark -- check out http://www.toronto.com it is a site that caters to this town and has a great feature I would like to see eventually incorporated into the guide .. for any place htey mention in this site, you can generate a map of where it is, and this is dynamic, so you can zoom in and out at will.

7. Okay, Im done now. Discuss.

~Beeblefish (Chuffed as All Get Out on This, Our Guide) smiley - fish


From Pessimism to Optimism and Beyond

Post 54

The Cow

Orange, Vodaphone, et al have just put £22 billion in fees into the treasury to create the next generation of mobile phone. We just need to make sure they support h2g2.
I want one.

We'll just have to wait for two years for the tech to come onstream, and then another 8 weeks for the price to halve...

But I want the stickers! They -do- exist - there was one on Tommorrows World (Phillipa Forrester with one of the h2g2's staff's phones... with 'h2g2 dev' only marginally lower in the list than the real thing...)


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Post 55

Wrathchild

Oh. Thank you.


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Post 56

The Cow

???


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Post 57

Wrathchild

Thank you for Zed's explanation.


From Pessimism to Optimism and Beyond

Post 58

Brad Mitchell

I am relativly new to the guide, and yet I have already seen the power behind this site, and what it can become. For instance, I have already solved one of h2g2's problems- the mobile device. I have a graphing calculator for my work, and I (as a lark) decided to write "Don't Panic!" in large red friendly letters on the cover. It went over well with the folks who understand the book, and got laughs from those who don't. The calculator has an alphanumeric function that allowes any user to have up to 26 variables in any one equation. This feature combined with a scuzzy interface cable for my laptop allowes me to write guide entries or memos or the shopping list for the rest of the week on my calculator and upload it into a word processing program as a giant graphic, then OCR in into editable text. This works like a charm. It is not instant, or up to the minute, or even internet ready, but it is a start. If everyone would just quit complaining about the "Impossibility" of the H2G2 dream, then we might actually get something done.

The final guide doesn't even have to be one coherent device. Given the innards of a Nokia phone, a screwdriver and 14 hours alone, I could probably wire the phone circuts into my calculator, and then I would be able to connect and upload from any location anywhere. It just takes a bit of ingenuity and MacGuiver attitude.

Any thoughts would be welcome.
~Ford Prefect


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Post 59

Researcher 01 from TNDinc.

Well...
Maybe your right...

But I'll gladly carry around a piece of H2G2-equipment, just because it's cool!

And then people will ask, "What on earth is that?", and i would proudly tell them what it is, and why I've got one.

smiley - smiley


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Post 60

Researcher 01 from TNDinc.

Well...
Maybe your right...

But I'll gladly carry around a piece of H2G2-equipment, just because it's cool!

And then people will ask, "What on earth is that?", and i would proudly tell them what it is, and why I've got one.

smiley - smiley


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