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Post 1

Farlander

Entry: Mozart's Death: Murder, Accident or Disease? - A1233686
Author: Farlander - disgruntled boffin - U206300

hello there,

here's another of my incredibly long rants smiley - winkeye. i've always been fascinated by this subject, and since nobody's ever discussed it here from the medical point of view, i thought i'd do just that.

the thing is... i just did a hootoo check, and discovered that samarkand had written an article entitled 'who killed mozart' (or something like that. it was on the conspiracy theories). i'd have contacted him to see if he was interested in a collaborative, only he hasn't been around for the last year. the thing is - should i credit him? i took nothing from his article (having found it only today), but should i put credit him for having written a similar article anyway?

all comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated.

smiley - cheers
far.


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Post 2

me[Andy]g

Wow, this is certainly very thorough. I can't see much wrong on first read. smiley - smileysmiley - ok

Regarding crediting samarkand... I think ultimately it's up to you, but if you haven't used any of his article at all it's probably best if you don't credit him, especially seeing as though he hasn't been about for a year.

smiley - smiley

me[Andy]g


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Post 3

Spiff


Hi Farlander, smiley - smiley

I read this and it makes interesting reading. smiley - ok

I'm no expert on the content, though familiar with some aspects of the story. We studied the Shaffer Amadeus for a-level, and I love the man's music! smiley - biggrin

Anyway, one or two minor nits picked for you:

"Mozart himself had fueled these rumours of murder by telling Constanze in 1798 "

- Yet he died in 1791 (as you state)... did you mean '88?

smiley - ufo

"This may have had its roots in anti-Semitic prejudice."

- something of an understatement? smiley - winkeye

smiley - ufo

In the 'Uremia' section: "an interesting exchange once took place between the when"

- just a missing word, i think.

anyway, i think this is good, and if you didn't borrow at all from the other entry, i don't think there's any call for a credit. Should look good on the Front Page, smiley - ok

just my smiley - 2cents
cya
spiff


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Post 4

Danny B

Very thorough smiley - ok

There are a *lot* of footnotes, and you'll probably find many of them get chopped by the subeditor (assuming, of course, that it gets picked smiley - winkeye) Therefore, you may want to prune a few (a lot?) of them yourself so that you can keep the ones you're really attached to smiley - smiley


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Post 5

Spiff



Oh, just one last thing... err...
oh, yeah...
The footnotes... some of them were quite hefty, and that makes it difficult to read without going down the page to do so. And of course, they are quite frequent.

This can be a question of style, and i'm not saying, 'Ditch the footnotes!'

Just pointing to an area that struck me could benefit from a second look. smiley - smiley


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Post 6

Zarquon's Singing Fish!

A bit of a mammoth read, but an interesting one, Farlander.

I can't comment on the content, but I have no difficulty with the footnotes.

smiley - fishsmiley - musicalnote


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Post 7

J

You've done it again Farlander! You've written an entry so thorough that the footnotes are longer than some of my entries smiley - tongueout I agree with Spiff's point about the footnotes. Some of them can be worked into the text

Some of them, such as footnote four don't really contribute anything to an already long entry.

Okay, my nitpicks are quite a many.
All "" marks that aren't enclosed in ''s should be ''s smiley - smiley It's the house style, and personally I think it looks nicer. Words such as Dr. and Mrs. should not be dotted in the house style. All GuideML tags need to be in capitals. This could end up as a very large job for a sub editor, which we certainly don't want smiley - angel

We're trying to keep the entries well polished and with little problems for the subbie to deal with, and this would be a nice one to work on smiley - ok Mostly just house style stuff. The entry itself is very nice smiley - ok

smiley - blacksheep


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Post 8

Farlander

ai yi yi! smiley - yikes i leave h2g2 for 24 hours, and i come back to get buried in an avalanche of electrons!

to those who have commented - thank you so very much! smiley - ok i have no idea how to reply to all of the postings at once, but... here goes...

first, to address the footnotes bit (yes yes, i'll try to cut 'em down smiley - winkeye)- here's an interesting little nugget of information i got off a scout quite a long time ago that makes reading footnotes a lot easier: you hover your mouse over the footnote number and wallack! the footnote pops out in a little yellow box - which disappears when you move your mouse away from the footnote. cool, innit? this whole guideml thing never ceases to amaze me...

andy: thanks for going over the article! i guess i'll leave the credits as they are for the time being, and let the subbie decide (assuming of course, as danny said, that this article gets picked smiley - winkeye)

spiff: yes, the shaffer version *is* wonderful, isn't it? it's not all true, of course - but he managed to make it so convincing. re 1798 - you caught me there! my typo - it's supposed to be 1789. i have a rather awful number dyslexia problem when i type, with the consequence that when i went through my article i found really odd dates like 1970 or 1897... smiley - erm the 'interesting exchange' thing should've read: 'an interesting exchange once took place between *them* when...'

danny: i'll try to remove whatever footnotes i can, but some of them look a little weird in the main body, especially the jones criteria for rheumatic fever. any suggestions?

jodan: ok... i had no idea that the tags should be in upper caps (too many years of writing html and actionscript can do that to you smiley - winkeye). i'll go see what i can do about it. oh, and can you please elucidate on this sentence: "All "" marks that aren't enclosed in ''s should be ''s "? i'm afraid that, seeing as it's a very early wimpy morning, i don't quite follow. maybe after a strong cup of smiley - coffee... but thanks for looking over the article! smiley - ok


smiley - cheers
far.


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Post 9

Elephants? Or Just Niwt?

I haven't read all of it yet but it looks good smiley - ok

I'm pleased to see a link to my Requiem entry smiley - tongueout

smiley - erm Have you read A593462? It's got a bit about this, and it mentions the official cause of death as being "miliary fever", which you don't say - well, like I said I haven't read all of it, but I did a search for miliary in the entry and couldn't find it. smiley - smiley

Okay...I hope to finish reading it when I have more time...

Niwt/Elephants smiley - cheers


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Post 10

Farlander

hi elephants!

thanks for dropping in. yeah, i did mention miliary fever - it's in footnote 2. (and 'dropsy of the heart' as well! i tried putting all that in the main body, but it just didn't fit in anywhere)

smiley - cheers
far.

ps: mozart's 'requiem' is one of my favourite pieces of classical music. i can't say that my labmates like it when i play it, though... i was extremely pleased when i heard it in the second x-men movie.


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Post 11

Spiff


hiya,

just regarding hovering over the footnote number to read them - this is *exactly* why some of yours are 'inconvenient' for my reading habits. As you can see from A662221smiley - biggrin!

I always do the hovering thing, but...and perhaps this is only true of IE, but there is a quite short time limit on how long the box appears. If the footnote takes more than 4 or 5 seconds to read, you are cut off in mid flow. You can't even just hover over it again to 'finish off' quite a number of your FNs. smiley - sadface

just thought you might like to know this
spiff smiley - smiley


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Post 12

Danny B

"danny: i'll try to remove whatever footnotes i can, but some of them look a little weird in the main body, especially the jones criteria for rheumatic fever. any suggestions?"

Simple - write an Entry on Rheumatic Fever and link it smiley - winkeye

Or... *thinks*

smiley - 2centsDo you really need to specify criteria? Perhaps it would be enough for a general Entry such as this to state that "Mozart's symptoms fulfill the accepted criteria for rheumatic fever" or something and leave it at that. If people are interested, you could link to an external website such as http://www.gpnotebook.co.uk/cache/-697630716.htmsmiley - 2cents


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Post 13

J

I don't blame you farlander, I was a bit vague...

Quotation marks (") in the sentence should be replaced with apostrophes (') unless there is a quote within a quotation, when you should use the "s. smiley - tongueout Kinda hard to explain, but it's the house style

smiley - blacksheep


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Post 14

Farlander

hello there,

i have hacked away at the footnotes!!! removing those that are not *absolutely* necessary and incorporating the rest into the text... as you can see, i have cut down the number of footnotes from 32 to 20! smiley - biggrin (as a large number of the ones that are left are highly informational, i'll leave them there for the time being until i figure out what to do with them...)

spiff: i *have* noticed that the boxes disappear after a while, but i guess it never made much of an impression on me because i'm a speed reader and am usually long done before the box disappears. i'll try to cut down on the length of the footnotes, though...

danny: that is a great idea! unfortunately, that would also mean a great deal more research smiley - erm i have two other articles on my to-do list, but well, if i have the time after writing those... we'll see!

jodan: ah... i understand perfectly now. (could also be because there's a hot mug of smiley - coffee next to me. i think trimethylxanthine coaxes my brain to *work* smiley - winkeye) i'll just pop over and make the changes... thanks! smiley - ok


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Post 15

J

Looks pretty good so far from my nitpicks smiley - smiley


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Post 16

Z

I've really enjoyed reading this fascinating entry, well done Farlander..


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Post 17

Farlander

thanks, z! i hope you went over the medical details - you're the expert on medical matters, not me smiley - winkeye


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Post 18

anhaga

so much of a problem had Mozart's physician had been more thorough -> so much of a problem had Mozart's physician been more thorough


(I like footnotes. Especially long ones.)


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Post 19

anhaga

oh, and:

who only were interviewed only years after Mozart's demise -> who only were interviewed years after Mozart's demise

or

who were interviewed only years after Mozart's demise


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Post 20

anhaga

Freemasonshad -> Freemasons had (unless this is some type of fish: freemason shad)

denied that the skull was not that of Mozart as seen in portraits -> denied that the skull was that of Mozart as seen in portraits

A little note on HSP from a parent of one who suffers from it: The epidermal vasculitis is confined to the lower extremities. Also, the intestines frequently become involved. I'd have to agree that there is nothing in Mozart's symptoms that is consistent with HSP.


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