A Conversation for Running With Scissors

Reading for many reasons

Post 1

abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein

Yes it is a narrow approach to think that readers only read one type of book or come from one type of lifestyle. It is always sad when people in like professions ,trash the appeal and success of others.
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Post 2

Tonsil Revenge (PG)

Oh, I don't know.
There may be a reason why J.K. doesn't write reviews of other people's work. She may be too busy trying to figure out when Harry will have his first wet dream...smiley - run


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Post 3

abbi normal "Putting on the Ritz" with Dr Frankenstein

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Post 4

Ormondroyd

I love the Potter books too, first because they are terrific works of imaginative fiction, but also because they subtly deal with adult themes without obviously preaching.

'Order of the Phoenix', for instance, has a plot that revolves around political corruption (in the Ministry of Magic) and the abuse of power, by Professor Umbridge and others. And there's always an anti-elitist and anti-racist subtext in the books. A big part of what makes the Slytherins despicable is their belief that their 'pure' wizards' blood makes them inherently superior, and their contempt for 'Mudbloods' like Hermione.

And, after all, Harry has his Cho Chang - some of the time, at least - so he's probably already had that dream. How useful to be able to magic away embarrassing stains and adolescent acne! smiley - loveblushsmiley - wizard


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Post 5

GreenHayGirl

Well firstly "Hear Hear!". I hate this snobbery that you get within the world of literature. It's similar to that within Art. I think books are there to be enjoyed and that really shouldn't matter whether it's War & Peace or even Mills & Boon. When I read a book I want to be absorbed and if you're reading purely because the critics say you should be reading a specific book then unless it's your kind of thing, you're not going to enjoy it. I get so taken in by some novels that it's almost as though I become a part of the plot. Everybody's tastes are different and as long as we are reading, we're not sitting in front of the TV watching soaps. I thought the latest Harry Potter was wonderful and when I read it, I felt a part of the inner child coming out of me. Children love the idea of magic and adventure, is it really that different for us now we are adults? smiley - smiley

BCW


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Post 6

quizzical

Readers! I've got readers! God bless them, everyone!! smiley - smileysmiley - smileysmiley - smiley


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Post 7

tacsatduck- beware the <sheep> lie

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Post 8

Tonsil Revenge (PG)

Yet reviewers are not readers. They are paid for their personalities and their pet peeves.
Which could explain why I read very few of them by choice.


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Post 9

spook

can i just state that Harry Potter 5 is rubbish. I've read them all and this is the worst by miles. Harry Potter has not grown up like any of the other characters, but has instead become immature and stupid. What an idiot not to understand Cho's feelings, be dumb enough not to think that Voldermort couldn't send false messages to him, and be babyish enough to cry about everything and not think about what he's doing.

in Harry Potter 5, Harry is meant to be the same age i am now by the end of the book, and i can tell you JK Rowling hasn't a clue about how people act, because she's made Harry act like a 10 year old, not a 15/16 year old with a brain!

spooksmiley - aliensmile


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Post 10

Ormondroyd

Spook, if you were mature, sensitive and in touch with your own and others' feelings by 15, then you were a far, far better lifeform than me. I thought Harry's behaviour with Cho in 'Phoenix' was perfectly plausible. I was quite capable of being like that in my early thirties. smiley - blush


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Post 11

quizzical

I must admit Harry's yelling at other people got tedious after the first 10 pages or so. But 15-year-olds often feel put upon, and Harry genuinely IS put upon, so I was willing to cut him some slack. smiley - smiley

What I find annoying is that he often goes off half-cocked and acts before he thinks things through, and that's his character as much as his immaturity. This time it blows up in his face and somebody important to him dies (apparently) as a result. There's nothing like a really bad experience, and a good dose of guilt, to smarten one up. Let's hope he learns something from it.


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Post 12

Tonsil Revenge (PG)

I'm still wondering about the "secret" society that wanders off and reenacts "The Guns of Navarone"...

I read a rumor that JK wrote the outline for the entire series years ago and since has been filling in the gaps.


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Post 13

Jerry

One kid I know tells everyone he can that Voldemort is Dumbledore's brother. People can really say wierd stuff to grab attention. I mean, if vold was dumbles bro, then how can you explain the age gap between them? I think its 50 yrs.
Anyway, apparently JK's gonna add Ron/Hermione to the dead list soon (I read it in a newspaper)


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Post 14

quizzical

I think JK said in an interview that she had the main plot worked out when she started writing the first book. I wonder how many surprises she gets while writing the later books - part of the fun of writing stories is that the characters sometimes have minds of their own and don't behave the way they're supposed to. smiley - smiley

Don't know about Ron/Hermione ending up dead. JK wouldn't give us any hints even if she were planning it, so I'd say that's just a rumour at this point.


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Post 15

spook

i really must disagree about Harry. i could relate to Cho, Ron and Hermione all in different ways, and their characters seemed to have developed and matured. it's just harry's character seems to have become more immature and dumb, and in a book mainly focussed on this one character, i think it really detracted from the story.

for example, Cho is sad about Cedrick's death and Harry doesn't understand why. yet Harry was the one who watched the death. he should be able to understand her pain. on the 14th of January this year i watched my mum die, and watching someone die is a very emotional and painful thing, and Harry showing no emotion, no sadness or compassion, it just is not natural.

apart from that though, i really liked Fred and George and their joke gags. i think they're the stars of the books!smiley - smiley

spooksmiley - aliensmile


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Post 16

quizzical

I think Harry's cluelessness rings true. You're right, it isn't 'natural'. He spent most of his first 11 years unloved and abused. It's not surprising that he'd be emotionally disengaged and have trouble forming close relationships with people; in fact, his friendship with Ron and Hermione is more unbelievable to me than his ignorance of Cho's feelings.

This is one reason the books aren't great literature.

But I still enjoy reading them, even if I occasionally wish Harry would put a sock in it. And Fred and George are my new heroes. smiley - smiley


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Post 17

spook

yes, the books definitely aren't great literature. i remember watching a programme a while back about Harry Potter and it said JK Rowling submitted Harry Potter to a bunch of publishers and a children's one is the only one that would accept her. i think this is because the writing is pretty poor but the stories are compelling enough and use simple language which is perfect for children. i don't know how it became such a craze with adults though.

spooksmiley - aliensmile


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Post 18

Tonsil Revenge (PG)

You'd be surprised how much of "adult" literature is written at the sixth grade level.
My pastor says our adult sunday school lesson books are.

Robert B. Parker has made a living writing mysteries at the third grade level.


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