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The Original Star Wars

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Post Team

~grin~... Me often wonders how much of Star Wars was in fact George Lucas' own creation... as it was actually ghost written by Alan Dean Foster... though credited to George Lucas...

Greebs..xx


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Awix

Hmmm... isn't that just supposed to be the novelisation? That always struck me as an extremely plausible theory, given the obvious talent of whoever wrote the book (writing prose is not a Lucas talent so far as the LFL publicity machine goes, and they're not exactly famous for hiding his talents under a bushel).

I'm prepared to give Lucas the benefit of the doubt where the SW script is concerned, always bearing in mind how much was ripped off from Joe Campbell books on anthropology, Flash Gordon, Kurosawa movies, the Fantastic Four (Darth Vader's costume is *so* suspiciously similar to that of Doctor Doom), Tolkien and WW2 dogfight films. smiley - smiley


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Catwoman

If you try to take a peek (only a small one, mind) at the films without the rose-tinted glasses, you'll find that the script is, um, well...



The actual script appears to be well within the powers of a prose-writer with the skills of George Lucas. Okay?


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Post 4

Awix

The script for Star Wars is simple, but deceptively so - it hits all the classic fairytale beats in order to chime with The Story we all have hardwired into our brain - the same Story that lives inside LOTR, Harry Potter, Superman, etc - but it also incorporates huge amounts of current story tropes, like the wild west saloon, the war plane movie, etc. It also bears a huge and blatant debt to Kurosawa, whose scripting abilities are not to be underestimated.

Brian Aldiss and Stanley Kubrick were disgusted by the success of the 'simplistic' Star Wars, and sat down to write a 'proper' adventure fantasy. They spent hours coming up with the perfect story... and roared with laughter when they realised they'd written Star Wars all over again.

(Rose tinted? No, only smeared with thumbprints, alas...)


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Post 5

Catwoman

Hmmm. Yeah. But it's still not exactly difficult/complex/etc. It's a kids film.


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Awix

Not that I'm *necessarily* disagreeing with you, but just cos something's not difficult or complex doesn't mean it's just for kids. I mean, there are many great stories that seem quite simplistic and aimed at children but they're loved by adults, which implies they do have some greater depth to them. Like - oh, I don't know, Watership Down. Kids get an adventure story about bunny rabbits, adults get an adventure story about bunny rabbits with sophisticated subtext about political philosophy. smiley - smiley

I'm a great fan of the original SW trilogy, and I don't *think* I still watch them simply because they make me feel three years old again. I watch them because they're great adventure stories well told.


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Post 7

Catwoman

You remember seeing it when you were 3?

Please don't bring in political subtexts to Star Wars, that would be too high on the smiley - geekometer even for you.

It's got giant killer teddies in it, you can't say it's not kids story (that's not diminishing it, just pointing out what the primary audience would be if it were normal).


The Original Star Wars

Post 8

Awix

Dimly, yes, it was one of the formative moments of my life.

Putting to one side my vague feeling that I've just been quietly insulted, I think we shall also not worry too much about the political subtext of Star Wars... cos it's (understandably) a bit confused, what with being simultaneously revolutionary and authoritarian...

Well, there's a difference between being a film kids can watch and being a kid's film. On paper Harry Potter and LOTR look pretty similar but surely you'd agree that one is a kid's film and the other isn't.


The Original Star Wars

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Catwoman

You can tell the difference quite easily by looking at the books...

Personally I wouldn't let my hypothetical kids see LotR, much too scary for young ones.


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