A Conversation for 'Watchmen' - the Graphic Novel

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Post 1

the autist formerly known as flinch

The Watchman bloodstained smiley was really big on t-shirts in the late 80's and it was their proliferation at the early warehouse parties that lead to the smiley being adopted by the House music movement, and to the 'smiley culture' we now know and love smiley - smiley


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Post 2

Researcher 196418

really ? i'm surprised it was that widely read, at the time it seemed
v much like an obscure/minority read.

whatever happened to Big Numbers ?


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Post 3

Xanatic

I don't think the ending can be compared to the attack on WTC. I wouldn't say that has united the world agianst a common threat.


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Post 4

Hoovooloo

196418: don't you mean the Big Figure? I like to think he and Rorshach had a little chat...

OK, spoiler alert, if you haven't read Watchmen, don't read the rest of this posting.





I mean it, it'll spoil it!








Xanatic: Well, I had three emails in the middle of last September from different friends who each independently said "read Watchmen recently?" or words to that effect.

A sudden, devastating attack on the civilian population of New York which kills thousands, planned by a single man of high IQ and considerable financial resources driven by a belief that the world needs a change. That's the end of Watchmen. That's bin Laden's attack on the WTC. It's not an exact match, granted - Osama bin Laden didn't use a dimensionally shifted clone of an artificial alien - but the parallel is, I think, close enough to warrant comment. So I did. smiley - winkeye

(btw, thanks for reading, even if you disagree!)

H.


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Post 5

superdogmonkey

Yes, on Sept. 11th , the Double page spreads came to mind. Am I a sick f**k or was my mind finding something familiar to cope with the horrific scenes

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Post 6

superdogmonkey

Sorry, a bit heavy for a comic thread. Going back a bit, Watchman was all the rage among all the people I knew in comicland + the music press seemed to pick up on it quickly.

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Post 7

Hoovooloo

Hey, like I said, comics (and this comic in particular) are NOT for kids. Heavy is appropriate.

I'd guess you, like a lot of other people who'd read Watchmen, were just doing what every human brain does most of the time and making connections with experiences you'd already had.

MOST people who compared the scenes in NYC to *anything* mentioned "Independence Day". That's simply because a LOT of people saw that movie, and many more saw the trailer and were spared the plot smiley - winkeye and that image was the first thing they found when they groped for some way of understanding what they were seeing.

You (and me, and three of my friends) groped and found "Watchmen". That's *not* sick - finding patterns and making connections is how everyone's mind works, even to the extent that we see patterns where there are none - in the random placement of the stars in the sky, for example. Constellations don't exist - our pattern-seeking brains put them there. You'd have cause to worry if you *didn't* make connections like that...

H.


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Post 8

the autist formerly known as flinch

Big Numbers - which promised to be Moore's finest hour - got no further than issue 2, after an arguement between Bill Sienkowitz the artist, and Mad Love the publishers, after allegations that artwork in the first two issues was not drawn by him but by his students. I don't think this was prooved / disproved publically, but sufficed to say those first two issues were all that saw the light, and we can only image the glory that was to follow.


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Post 9

Hoovooloo

smiley - blue

H.


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Post 10

Children's Books For Grown-ups Too!

I agree, dude. With the 9-11 comparisons. My friends and I thought the same thing. We also thought Secret Agent (Conrad) and Futurological Congress (Lem)But I think 9-11 is pretty close. But more cynical. I often wonder how many people the govt of the US would LET DIE if it new the atrocity would allow them to do what they want. If there's one think comics of the 1980's and early 90's have tought us - it's that those people who claim to represent us and claim to have our best interests at heart so often do not. The purity of purpose seen in the costume vigilantes and even villain is in stark contrast to the murk that the authorities represent. Moore was brilliant at that. Telling a larger tale with lots of small ones. Cheers for making me think about what for me, was the Golden Age of comics, and not a term applied just because of how long ago it was!!


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