A Conversation for Ash Magna and Ash Parva, Shropshire, UK

eaton family

Post 1

ericprestwich

I wondered if anybody has any information regarding my ancestors who lived in Ash Magna and Ash Parva they were the Eaton family 1830-1870 and also the Cliff family 1800's I believe the Cliffs were blacksmiths and the Eatons agricultural workers and carters. Are there any Eatons and Cliffs still in the village. I am visiting Ash shortly are there any shops that sell old postcards or books.
Regards Eric


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Post 2

LL Waz

Hi Eric, I was away on holiday when you posted so have only just caught up with this. There is at least one Cliff still in Ash and I believe she has deep Ash roots. I've heard the surname Eaton, but don't know if they're still around.

A shop? No, I'm afraid the one and only remaining shop/post office closed a few years ago and I've not seen any Ash postcards. However, there is an Ash book - 'Ash Roots' published for the millenium. It was a limited publication but there may be an odd copy left at the Tourist Information centre in Whitchurch - which is only a couple of miles away. And the White Lion pub is still open. The pub would be a good place to ask about family connections. It's used mainly by locals. Friday evening would be a good time, you'd have a fair chance of running into someone there who had a copy of the book.

The original smithy's still in existence - now a shed on the street front of no. 1 Sunnybank. The current smithy, open part time, is just a few yards up the hill from the village hall.

Hope this is in time for your visit, and I hope you find what you're looking for.
Waz


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Post 3

LL Waz

More info. From the Ash Roots book Ash had two blacksmiths shops and there were Cliff blacksmiths at the one in the garden of what's now 1 Sunnybank. John Cliff in 1796, Daniel Cliff in 1841, his son Thomas William from 1870 to 1938. Thomas had six daughters (poor guy smiley - winkeye) and no son to take over.

There's an old photo from Ash School, girls all in pinafores, boys with Eton style collars, showing a Roe Cliff and a Nance Cliff.

No Eaton's named in any of the photos though.

Eric, if you see this and can give me an email address, I could scan a copy of a picture of the Cliff's thatched Tudor long-house (unfortunately no longer in existence) and the school photo if you don't find a copy of the book for yourself.


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Post 4

ericprestwich

Hi Waz
Many thanks for your reply,I did manage to visit Ash a few days ago and I am pleased to say it was a great success I managed to find the graves of the Cliff family and one of the Eatons. I also managed to get the very last copy of Ash Roots from the Whitchurch Heretage centre. My family used to live at Lea House Lodges but I couldn't make out if they still exist,they also lived in Ash Fields but don't know if the buildings are still there.Once again may I thank you for your information.
Kind regards Eric


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Post 5

LL Waz

You're welcome, I'm just glad you found your own way to the Whitchurch TI and got a copy of the book. And that the visit was a success.

Both Ash Fields and Lea House Lodges are still there. The Lodges are known locally as the pepper pots. You'll see why if you look on google's satellite map!

On http://cwr.defra.gov.uk/DisplayImage.aspx?Type=Mapboard&IFN=352700045.pdf you can see where Ash Fields is, and Lea House. The Lodges are either side of Lea House's access onto the road out from Ash Parva to Ightfield.

Good luck on your search for ancestors. I've been doing some of that myself but only on the internet - most of them are up in Scotland.
Waz


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Post 6

pt3154

hi eric just happend to be surfing saw your enquiry about lea hall lodges (the pepperpots) our family have owned them for the last 80 years,maybe we can give you a little information.

peter


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Post 7

LL Waz


smiley - cool

This is 100% idle curiosity, I don't have Eric's reason for interest, but I've always wanted to know if the same family lived in both of them. And whether the kitchen's in one and the living room in the other.
Waz


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Post 8

ericprestwich

Hi Peter,
Many thanks for your reply,I can't believe my luck I visited Ash last week
and wandered the village and the churchyard trying to find connections with the Eaton and Cliff families I found the old smithy which was run by the Cliff family next to the old school but I couldn't trace where the Eaton family lived.I found Lea Hall and knocked on the door of one of the houses on the path up to the farm,where the lady kindly gave me some diections little did I know these houses were where my family lived in 1871 they were John and Eliza(nee Cliff) Eaton and their children including my grandfather Thomas, my great grandfather worked on the farm.
In 1881 they moved to Salford in Lancs and worked in the mills.
I would be very grateful for any information you may have or any copies of
old photos you could email me, my email address is [email protected] forward to hearing from you.
Kind regards Eric


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Post 9

pt3154

Hi Waz, We believe the cottages were built by the owner of the farm in the mid 1860's, Peter Leather, who also made some alterations to the farmhouse at the same time. The farm was occupied by a tenant. Reputedly the cottages were occupied
by a gamekeeper in one, and the other was used by the landlord at weekends when he come for the shooting! Don't know how true this is. Each cottage had an outside privy and cow shed! They are each about 20' square and originally held a small kitchen, living room and two small bedrooms, but in 1980 were condemned due to no indoor toilet facilities. We renovated them both in the mid-1980's, so now half of the original space is living area, with a hall, bathroom and bedroom. There is an extension which houses the kitchen.
We don't know any history of the house at Lea Hall, however it is a moated site, so if anyone knows any more about it we would love to hear from them.
Regards, Peter
Regards, Peter


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Post 10

LL Waz

Thank you for satisfying my curiosity smiley - smiley. I wish I could help with Lea Hall - if I do come across anything, I'll post it here.
Waz


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