A Conversation for Ash Magna and Ash Parva, Shropshire, UK
Also ran 1 Started conversation Feb 9, 2002
Dear Wazungumza, What a wonderful piece of research and I have already visited several other of your projects. What a stroke of luck to discover your site. Thank you so much for lighting up my day, and I dare to say the rest of my life. I spent two of the happiest years of my stay in England In Shropshire and took my English driving licence in Whitchurch as I was staying at Hawkstone Hall for three months. I feel joyous and uplifted and do hope that you will allow me to share some of your fascinating interests. With much gratitude. AR1 PS I note we share an interest in swimming apart from the wildlife and historical aspects.
LL Waz Posted Feb 10, 2002
Glad to meet you Also ran , and thankyou very much for your comments. Your words made *my* day! I got a great deal out of doing the research for this. I appreciate the country around Ash much more now. Now that I know the sandy gravel that appears after heavy rain was left behind by the glacier and I can picture Prince Rupert in all his Cavalier finery galloping across Prees Heath!
If it is alright with you I will call at your homepage to ask when you were at Hawkestone.
(BTW I took my driving test in Whitchurch too. And my swimming borders on obsessive.)
Also ran 1 Posted Feb 11, 2002
Hi Wazumgunza, I do not even mention my stay at Hawkestone Hall on my home page!!. I was there in 1995 for the first term. I had had open heart surgery four months previously and was obliged to find somewhere to convalesce. Quite by accident I heard about Hawkestone Hall. I applied and went there to study and to complete my convalesnce. I think I am correct in saying that I was the first secular person to be accepted. I absolutely loved my stay there, and fell deeply in love with Shropshire. I was obliged to take my English driving licence because although I had driven for 50 years I had fallen ill after my arrival and had let my driving licence lapse. After I left Hawkestone Hall I went and lived in Shrewsbury where I stayed for nearly two years until my son fell ill again and I had to return to Kent.
I have had to learn all about the English fauna and flora because where I lived for the first 64 years of my life everything was quite different. But I love history, and of course the way you talk about it makes it sound quite fascinating - as it is. I am exploring all the other links and yesterday downloaded a whole lot of information about the Celts. I remember that a friend of mine took me to pick bilberries(?) somewhere near Shrewsbury. It was such a beautiful place. I have driven along that road from Whitchurch and Hawkestone Hall to Shrewsbury many times and imagine that I must have passed near the place you are writing about. It is at times like these that I get really fed up with being in a wheelchair because I would love to go hiking again and examine and see all you are writing about. Oh well, reading about it when you write is a very good second best. Kind regards. AR1
LL Waz Posted Feb 13, 2002
Staying at Hawkestone Hall must have been an experience. I've been round parts of the Hawkestone Park hotel grounds. Sometimes officially on guided tours of the follies etc but also unofficially, using the path that used to start in Paradise valley under the 'No Trespassers' sign.
Driving between Hawkestone and Whitchurch you must have driven over, or along Prees Heath. Searching on the internet yesterday I found a suggestion that there may be two Roman roads over the heath. One looking as if it came closer to Ash than the A49 one. If it went in a straight line it would cut across the lane between the A49/A41 and the village just where it is forever flooding and where I remember a local farmer saying there was a Roman road. Until yesterday I'd assumed he was mistaken or I had misheard. I will have to do more searching.
I added a new thread to the Ash article to tell a story I was told this evening of how Ash became 'Magna' and 'Parva'. It's not exactly historical however .
By the way I am definitely an amateur at history. What I've written here I found out in trying to research Ash. I knew the village was old but it was difficult to find evidence of it.
Also ran 1 Posted Feb 14, 2002
Hi WGZ- May I call you that instead of typing out your whole name which I shall invariably get wrong. It was at Hawkstone Hall that I first came across "Follies". They are really extraordinary things. It seems that some people (apparently the "nouveau-riche") used to build them in order to give the impression that their homes were of great historical interest.Little did they know that they were sitting on a mine of history!!. I have just had a wonderful morning going through a web-site. I am not too sure how I got onto it, but it is on www.henge.org.uk and it would I am sure fascinate you. I put in a search for Shropshire but he did not seem to mention your sites. Perhaps he does not know about them!!, You must contact him and let him know. I really am an ass, because I was sitting at my computer reading all this fascinating stuff. (I have got a huge screen so that I can read easily!!) and the guy called "SQUONK" was describing the weather and the conditions he was working in, which were cold and bleak and raining. When I had finished reading and looked out my study window and saw the sun shining and the blue sky I had to blink twice to think where I was. The first sign of decrepitude I am sure. I had a lovely swim yesterday and felt so much better for it. It is the only exercise I can have and really makes a difference to me. Warm greetings. AR1
Also ran 1 Posted Feb 18, 2002
Dear Wasungumza, I do hope that I did not offend you by trying to make your name shorter!! If I did please forgive me. I hope that you have found that extra site about Shropshire. I have been gardening - from my wheelchair today and have really enjoyed it. Hope to hear from you soon. Kind regards. AR1
LL Waz Posted Feb 18, 2002
No AR1, you didn't offend me, you can do what you like with the name! I'll answer to anything. It is a bit of a keyboardful, I usually shorten it to Waz, myself, as that is short for the couple of variations of the name that I used before. I am going to go to your homespace to continue talking, so we can wander as 'off topic' as we like ,
I'll see you there,
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