## A Conversation for Triangular Numbers

### Integers versus Whole Numbers

Me, Myself, I, The Old Coot In My Closet, And The Incomparable Id [Call me "Id" for short.] Started conversation Dec 13, 2001

I have to speak up here about the definition of integers used in the footnote . . . 'whole numbers' is not a valid definition of integers. Whole numbers can be defined as the counting numbers including zero and greater, while integers are whole numbers, inluding zero, *and* negative whole numbers.

Just my two cents, I really enjoyed reading this piece. I think it's very interesting, and that little nit-picky detail was bugging me.

Id

### Integers versus Whole Numbers

Bagpuss Posted Dec 13, 2001

I always thought that whole numbers meant integers, however in this case I think the article did mean positive integers.

### Integers versus Whole Numbers

Me, Myself, I, The Old Coot In My Closet, And The Incomparable Id [Call me "Id" for short.] Posted Dec 13, 2001

My Algebra II teacher would be scandalized . . . she spent a month and a half teaching us the different sets of numbers. Real numbers, Imaginary numbers, Rational numbers, Irrational numbers, Whole numbers, Integers, etc.

That's probably the only reason why I caught that. (Thanks, Mrs. D. . . .)

Id

### Integers versus Whole Numbers

Bagpuss Posted Dec 14, 2001

Well, real, imaginary, rational, irrational and integers have definite definitions, but I don't know about "whole", it seems an entirely non-mathematical term.

Did that really take a month and a half?

### Integers versus Whole Numbers

Me, Myself, I, The Old Coot In My Closet, And The Incomparable Id [Call me "Id" for short.] Posted Dec 14, 2001

The way I was taught is that 'whole' numbers are positive integers including zero. (The memory trick we were taught was that 'whole' numbers had counting numbers and zero in the set, which looked like a 'hole'.)

I guess it depends on where and what you're taught.

And about it being a month and a half . . . well, maybe I was exaggerating a *little* bit.

Id

### Integers versus Whole Numbers

Bagpuss Posted Dec 15, 2001

Or by whom you're taught. In the same university, different lecturers will, for example include or exclue 0 in or from the natural numbers.

### Integers versus Whole Numbers

Me, Myself, I, The Old Coot In My Closet, And The Incomparable Id [Call me "Id" for short.] Posted Dec 15, 2001

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### Integers versus Whole Numbers

- 1: Me, Myself, I, The Old Coot In My Closet, And The Incomparable Id [Call me "Id" for short.] (Dec 13, 2001)
- 2: Bagpuss (Dec 13, 2001)
- 3: Me, Myself, I, The Old Coot In My Closet, And The Incomparable Id [Call me "Id" for short.] (Dec 13, 2001)
- 4: Bagpuss (Dec 14, 2001)
- 5: Me, Myself, I, The Old Coot In My Closet, And The Incomparable Id [Call me "Id" for short.] (Dec 14, 2001)
- 6: Bagpuss (Dec 15, 2001)
- 7: Me, Myself, I, The Old Coot In My Closet, And The Incomparable Id [Call me "Id" for short.] (Dec 15, 2001)
- 8: Bagpuss (Dec 17, 2001)

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