A Conversation for Tai Chi Chuan

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Post 1

MaW

I wish I'd seen this going through Peer Review... oh well.

It might have been nice to mention that in 1956 the Chinese government sanctioned an 'official' form of Tai Chi, including a number of prescribed forms, which the style I learn follows. It includes two hand forms, the Beijing 24 and the Beijing 48, and two sword forms, and was originally intended to allow the peasants to have the health benefits of Tai Chi (martial arts had previously been banned by the communist government as elitist), but without taking up so much of their time that they couldn't work (as the 108-posture form mentioned in the entry would...)

I would also disagree that most Tai Chi is strenuous on the thigh muscles - if you're properly relaxed, it's not - certainly not in the way that most people would think anyway. I usually only notice that I've been working the muscles when I stop and realise my legs are made of jelly smiley - smiley


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Post 2

Menza

You only really notice the work load your thigh muscles get if you are told to hold a position for a while. While you are moving it isn't so bad, but when you are still it can feel like your thighs are on fire.


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Post 3

Barneys Bucksaws

Great article! I learned the 108 moves of Taoist Tai Chi as brought to Canada by Master Moi Lin Shin. Its benefits to me were grace, awareness of my long skinny limbs, and successfully eliminating the arthritis pain in my shoulder blades I'd suffered on and off since I was 10.

I was in a class with a woman who'd had knee surgery and had limited flexibility. I watched her go from little movement in her knee, to being able to do the moves almost flawlessly.

When I was in Army Reserves I discovered another Corporal who did Tai Chi. Much to everyone's amusement we did the set in our combats, and he told me Tai Chi combined with Karate is deadly! Because I do at least one set a day, plus warmups, I got out of the sports evenings they tried to talk us all into.


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Post 4

Geoff Taylor - Gullible Chump

Glad the article's going down Ok with people.

I didn't mention the "Official" forms because I'd forgotten about them smiley - smiley And they should really have been included.

"... my legs are made of jelly ..." - so you do agree that TCC is strenuous on the legs, don't you? I'm confused.

smiley - cheers


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Post 5

MaW

It is, but if you manage to do it properly (something I'm only just getting because I have trouble getting my back straight enough), you don't notice the strain on your legs until after you've finished doing it. Sometimes I can manage most of the Beijing 24 without feeling any exertion at all, but when I finish it feels like I've just run a few miles.

It's weird, but I like it smiley - smiley Is it just my personal experience?


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Post 6

Zarquon's Singing Fish!

I have to agree with MaW and Menza. I wish I'd seen it in Peer review as well.

It would have been nice to have seen something about the twining force and about silken movement. When done perfectly, the classical Beijing style (I can't say about Chen Man Ching), weight transfer should be as smooth as silk.

Oh and mention of the specifically women's weapons.

smiley - fishsmiley - musicalnote


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Post 7

Geoff Taylor - Life's Liver

Thanks for the input.

Silk Reeling. Yes I've heard of that. In the original Chen, isn't it?

In the article I originally submitted I mentioned that my style was Cheng Man Ching, and that the article would be coloured by my experiences. That caveat has been dropped in the Edited version, which is a shame.

I'd love to hear about the specific women's weapons. I've no experience of them. Are we talking about the fan and the spiked finger-ring? My weapons list was never meant to be exhaustive, because some people include certain weapons and some specifically exclude them. Quandos, whips, sai, 3-section staff. The list is potentially endless.


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Post 8

MaW

In my style, we begin with the hand, of course, learning the Beijing 24. Then we typically proceed to the short sword form, followed by the Beijing 48 hand form, then the advanced sword form. I've also seen some people doing staff work, but I don't know if there are any other weapons learned by members of the society. It's far too early for me to worry about that, anyway - I recently started the sword form, and it's very hard!


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Post 9

Menza

I did Chen style, and covered the normal forms and short sword form. They did also teach the short spear form as well but I thought that might be a little too dangerous in a confined space. You would spend a fortune replastering the walls.


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