A Conversation for Selected Pretentious Literary Terminology

I'm shocked

Post 1

Fruitbat (Eric the)

In such a lovely entry, with so much useful material in it, how could the editor let this get by: "which comprises of ten syllables or five iambs"?

'Comprises' is a often-misused word, especially on CBC radio, and means "to have as parts or members, or to be (those parts or members)" [Yes, I had to look that one up.]

The line should read "which comprises ten syllables or five iambs" .

Fruitbat


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Post 2

Metal Chicken

But the rest of the entry is so wonderful, educational and entertaining I'm more than willing to forgive the one slip.
I shall now venture forth for the weekend adventures, armed with a newly extended literary vocabulary. Thanks smiley - smiley


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Post 3

Ashley



Fruitbat,

Thanks for pointing this out, it has been fixed smiley - smiley


There's an intersting note in the OED that the states the passive use of comprise (ie 'comprises of') is rapidly becoming the norm rather than the rule...

I love the OED... smiley - biggrin


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Post 4

Pete, never to have a time-specific nick again (Keeper of Disambiguating Semicolons) - Born in the Year of the Lab Rat

How can the OED condone this abusage? Ugh!


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Post 5

Ashley


The beauty of language is the fact that it evolves...

smiley - smiley


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Post 6

Dinsdale Piranha

It can also be argued that the job of a dictionary is to reflect what is, rather than to prescribe what should be.


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Post 7

Pete, never to have a time-specific nick again (Keeper of Disambiguating Semicolons) - Born in the Year of the Lab Rat

Yeah, but... it looks and sounds hideous... uuuhhh...

It must have been caused by confusion with the verb phrase 'to consist of sth', therefore, 'of' should be used only with 'consist', not 'comprise'.


I'm not sure that's right

Post 8

Spiff

Hi Ashley,

Is it possible that what the OED meant by 'passive use' was really "... is comprised of" ?

This is actually a passive form, unlike "...comprises of ..." which is an active use of the verb, and is, in my view, a mistake.

That would leave you with (at least) three valid verbs:

"The team comprises five Americans and a Frenchman."

"The team is comprised of 5 Americans etc."

"The team consists of 5 etc."

BUT definitely not (!!):

* "The team comprises of five etc."


I'm not sure that's right

Post 9

Pete, never to have a time-specific nick again (Keeper of Disambiguating Semicolons) - Born in the Year of the Lab Rat

Yeah, that seems about right.

What's *really* interesting is that you can reverse the transitive construction, viz.:

"Five Americans and a Frenchmen comprise the team."


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