A Conversation for French Music (1870 - 1945)

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Post 1

Kes

OK Team ... comments in this thread, please!


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Post 2

Kes

The entry on Maurice Ravel (in the pipeline for ages) was released today. Our piece will carry a link to it. See:

http://www.h2g2.com/A506332


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Seth of Rabi

Two small corrections to the Intro, Kes

'creee' does have 3 'e's I'm afraid, when applied to a feminine noun (l'ecole). First two are accent acute. Dreadful word for a Yorkshireman to pronounce!

I missed Lesueur out of the list of Conservatoire inspectors. Another horrible pronunciation trial. Please insert after Mehul.

Sorry-o

PS do you want bios in this form or can I submit my own guide entry for them?


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Post 4

Kes

OK - I'll make those changes. By all means do the bios as entries under your own name. We'll submit the whole "package" of entries as the project so they all go through the approval process quickly.


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Post 5

Kes

Joanna is starting a bio. on Debussy . Which composer would you like to "do"? smiley - smiley


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Post 6

Seth of Rabi

After the build-up I gave him in the intro, I'd better "do" Saint-Saens I think, Kes


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Post 7

Kes

Fantastic. smiley - smiley That will give us a good "thread" of bios. ... Saint-Saens, Faure, then Ravel ... and Debussy as well. I should have time to start one in a few days. I was debating between Massenet or Satie. Any other suggestions?


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Post 8

Seth of Rabi

Saint-Saens is open to ridicule on http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A544321smiley - laugh
Can I have someone a little less retentive next time?
I fancy doing Canteloube as he is one on his own

I don't think we can do much more in the summary article until we have the source data from the bios. A bit like putting the cart before the horse. eg I don't know that Franck or d'Indy actually wrote anything before 1870 (?)


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Post 9

Seth of Rabi

Amendments to pre-1870 blurb

My further researches have drawn me to the fact that Saint-Saens was firmly esconced at La Madeleine by 1870. It therefore makes better historical sense to delete 'Saint-Merry' and replace with 'La Madeleine'.

smiley - erm how did Dukas (1865-1935) get in this bit? His marginalisation pre-1870 may partly have been on grounds of aesthetic heresy but maybe it was just 'cos he was like a foetus smiley - biggrin


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Post 10

Kes

OK - yes, take Canteloube if you prefer. I'll check out that SS ref. later. OK - I'll make those changes to the text. Thanks!


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Post 11

Wilfrid is 42 (1x7x3+0+21)

Canteloube won't take me long. Is there anybody else you'd like me to do ?

Also, who do I speak to sort out forgotten username/password problems for a certain Mr Seth of Rabi (for it is he)? my email address is [email protected], or a week tomorrow [email protected]


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Post 12

Kes

OK - noted those addys - thanks. Forgotten passwords is a topic on the h2g2 Help page & FAQs, so use your other persona to get in touch with the "Powers in the Towers" that way.

The S-S entry reads really well. I like the idea of starting at a familiar point (Carnival) and mobing on. Atm, I have no changes to suggest, but I'll re-read it a couple of times and comment here if i think of anything.

Good luck recovering your id!


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Post 13

Seth of Rabi

Cheers, Wilf..Cheers, Kes!

Back to normality


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Post 14

Kes

You look better now, Seth! smiley - winkeye

We have a new volunteer on the team. Azara (U172739) has offered to do a piece on French Opera, covering this period (and more earlier years). When it's ready, we'll put links in from the main piece. This is great - we wanted to get Opera in there, and this is a way of doing it without making the main entry too long.

I'm working on a Satie bio. - should have something fit for comment in a day or so smiley - smiley


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Post 15

Kes

OK - we have first draft of the Satie bio awaiting comments at:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A546293

Let me know your thoughts!


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Post 16

Seth of Rabi

Good start! I didn't know he was tied up with the Rosicrucians - have you read Foucault's Pendulum? seriously wierd stuff ..explains a lot.

I've got his complete piano scores kicking around in a box somewhere back home. I'm back there on Thursday and will fill in on the odd musical directions ('play in the style of a limpet' seems to ring a bell)

Plenty of scope for a humorous anecdote to kick off an intro with this character.
Thoughts:

Gymnopedie #1 is the tune everybody knows. Isn't it Greek for naked foot or something?

Whatever the weather, I believe he used to venture outdoors with umbrella and raincoat, with a mallet in his pocket in case he was attacked!


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Post 17

Kes

OK - I have some background stuff on meaning of "Gymnopedie" - I'll put it in ... The thing about umbrellas rings a bell too ...

Yes please - a few examples of his instructions ... I have some of his music - just haven't dug it out yet!

Thanks for welcoming Azara ... the Opera entry will be a useful addition.


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Post 18

Kes

Care to cast an eye on first draft of a Massenet bio? Its at A550720. All comments welcome smiley - smiley


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Post 19

Kes

Right folks ..... I declare the main article complete ... except for:

1) adding in the live links to other entries
2) any bits you wish to add

Take a look and comment. After that, we'll move it to sub-editing. We're nearly there!


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Post 20

Kes

Status update. Three entries just moved into sub-editing. They are:
the main article, the Satie bio. and the Massenet bio.

Please let me know (here) as soon as any other entries are ready for sub-editing. (I'm sorta hoping that French Opera and the Saint-Saens bio are about there ......)


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