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J'au-æmne Posted Jul 18, 2000
I've been trying to work out what history I studied- the Greeks in Primary school, the Romans in 1st year secondary, the Industrial revolution & the Gunpowder plot in 2nd year, and from 3rd through to 5th the first and second world wars and the 20th century.
I looked at the Alevel history syllabus & saw that it had some of the same things again, so although I was tempted 'cause my history teacher in 2nd year told me (rightly or wrongly) that I could be a Historian, I stayed away...
I'm afraid my main sources have been 1066 and all that... & I can just about do things later than 1685...
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J'au-æmne Posted Jul 18, 2000
Is there an overview of british history page yet? w/ links to the other relevant entries? 'cause I'd really like to be able to remember whether the Tudors predate the Stuarts, & exactly when "Commonwealth" happened...
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Demon Drawer Posted Jul 18, 2000
Norman's, Plantagenets, Lacaster, York, Tudor, Stuarts Part I, Commonwealth, Stuarts Part II, Hanover, Saxe-Coburg, Windsor.
Hope this helps.
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Demon Drawer Posted Jul 18, 2000
We should really do an entry on the Royal houses though you are right. And I'm trying to find the verse I have somewhere to hel ppeople remember the Kings and Queens in order.
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J'au-æmne Posted Jul 18, 2000
Thats what I need I can memorise stuff like that a treat, better if its a song but I don't expect you to come up with a way to display music on h2g2
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Demon Drawer Posted Jul 18, 2000
Now I know it's around here somewhere. I was actually looking the other day when all of this first started.
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J'au-æmne Posted Jul 18, 2000
I'd try to look it up on google but for once in my life I'm at a loss for search terms
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Ashley Posted Jul 19, 2000
Just to be a nit picker
York and Lancaster are Tudor - The last Plantagent King was Richard III, his niece and the last Plantagenet Princess was Margaret, Countess Salisbury (mentioned in the entry)
It was Henry VII who joined the 2 houses of York and Lancaster to create the Tudor dynasty....
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J'au-æmne Posted Jul 19, 2000
*looks confused*
I'm sticking to things I understand. Since you like Planets you may be interested to read this Crusader http://www.h2g2.com/A397262
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Demon Drawer Posted Jul 19, 2000
Crusader as the Houses of Lancaster and York are generally reconised as sperarate, don't confuse the poor girl so. For in fact most of the house are related in essence anyway.
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Ashley Posted Jul 20, 2000
Th house of York and Lancaster are seperate but where houses of the Plantagenet Rulers.
The Tudor Reign started with the alamgamation of the two houses.
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Ashley Posted Jul 20, 2000
That should have been were
just to be a pedant - The divide between the houses of York and Lancaster arose because of the claims of the Dukes of York, Lancaster, Clarence, Gloucester, Norfolk and Sussex who were all Plantagenet princes/dukes.
I'll stop now
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Demon Drawer Posted Jul 20, 2000
Yes but without the division of the house in two there would have been no War of the Roses. I know they were both Platagenet families, however they were as close at the time of their respective reigns as Monagu and Capulet two houses of Verona.
Hang on you said you'd stop now so, so should I.
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J'au-æmne Posted Jul 20, 2000
*sigh*
But they had wars between them, right?
I understand the Montagues & Capulets, real history is that much worse!
(& yes I know that Romeo & Juliet may well be based on quasi historical characters or something, but anyway)
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Ashley Posted Jul 24, 2000
I'm really proud of that table
Just to go back to the York Lancaster thing.
Again.
When studying the Royal Houses of England, York and Lancaster are Plantagenet. The reason it changed to Tudor with Henry VII is because his claim to the throne came via his grandmother who was a queen consort to.....forget now. She went on to marry Owen Tudor. It was the result of this union who became the father of Henry VII, hence the Tudor house.
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J'au-æmne Posted Jul 24, 2000
Okay, Crusader, please write me an entry on the royal houses. A whole entry. So's I can get all these people into order...
Joanna (slightly chuffed 'cause she's almost memorised all of the Kings/Queens from Henry VIII to the present day)
(go on, you know you want to...http://www.h2g2.com/A397262)
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