A Conversation for Five Ladies and the Tower of London

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Post 21

J'au-æmne

I've been trying to work out what history I studied- the Greeks in Primary school, the Romans in 1st year secondary, the Industrial revolution & the Gunpowder plot in 2nd year, and from 3rd through to 5th the first and second world wars and the 20th century.

I looked at the Alevel history syllabus & saw that it had some of the same things again, so although I was tempted 'cause my history teacher in 2nd year told me (rightly or wrongly) that I could be a Historian, I stayed away...

I'm afraid my main sources have been 1066 and all that... & I can just about do things later than 1685...smiley - bigeyes


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Post 22

Demon Drawer

Ah well at least it is something. smiley - smiley

lets up h2g2 can educate you more.


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Post 23

J'au-æmne

Is there an overview of british history page yet? w/ links to the other relevant entries? 'cause I'd really like to be able to remember whether the Tudors predate the Stuarts, & exactly when "Commonwealth" happened...


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Post 24

Demon Drawer

Norman's, Plantagenets, Lacaster, York, Tudor, Stuarts Part I, Commonwealth, Stuarts Part II, Hanover, Saxe-Coburg, Windsor.

Hope this helps. smiley - smiley


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Post 25

J'au-æmne

Riiight...
smiley - smiley


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Post 26

Demon Drawer

We should really do an entry on the Royal houses though you are right. And I'm trying to find the verse I have somewhere to hel ppeople remember the Kings and Queens in order.


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Post 27

J'au-æmne

Thats what I need smiley - smiley I can memorise stuff like that a treat, better if its a song but I don't expect you to come up with a way to display music on h2g2 smiley - winkeye


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Post 28

Demon Drawer

Now I know it's around here somewhere. I was actually looking the other day when all of this first started.


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Post 29

J'au-æmne

I'd try to look it up on google but for once in my life I'm at a loss for search terms


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Post 30

Ashley

Just to be a nit picker smiley - smiley

York and Lancaster are Tudor - The last Plantagent King was Richard III, his niece and the last Plantagenet Princess was Margaret, Countess Salisbury (mentioned in the entry)

It was Henry VII who joined the 2 houses of York and Lancaster to create the Tudor dynasty....


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Post 31

J'au-æmne

*looks confused*

I'm sticking to things I understand. Since you like Planets you may be interested to read this Crusader http://www.h2g2.com/A397262


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Post 32

Demon Drawer

Crusader as the Houses of Lancaster and York are generally reconised as sperarate, don't confuse the poor girl so. For in fact most of the house are related in essence anyway.


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Post 33

Ashley

Th house of York and Lancaster are seperate but where houses of the Plantagenet Rulers.

The Tudor Reign started with the alamgamation of the two houses.


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Post 34

Ashley

That should have been were smiley - smiley

just to be a pedant - The divide between the houses of York and Lancaster arose because of the claims of the Dukes of York, Lancaster, Clarence, Gloucester, Norfolk and Sussex who were all Plantagenet princes/dukes.

I'll stop now smiley - smiley


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Post 35

Demon Drawer

Yes but without the division of the house in two there would have been no War of the Roses. I know they were both Platagenet families, however they were as close at the time of their respective reigns as Monagu and Capulet two houses of Verona. smiley - smiley

Hang on you said you'd stop now so, so should I.


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Post 36

J'au-æmne

*sigh*

But they had wars between them, right?


I understand the Montagues & Capulets, real history is that much worse!

(& yes I know that Romeo & Juliet may well be based on quasi historical characters or something, but anyway)


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Post 37

J'au-æmne

Oh & on something entirely different I like what you did to the table in my entry Crusader smiley - smiley


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Post 38

Ashley

I'm really proud of that table smiley - smiley

Just to go back to the York Lancaster thing.

Again. smiley - smiley

When studying the Royal Houses of England, York and Lancaster are Plantagenet. The reason it changed to Tudor with Henry VII is because his claim to the throne came via his grandmother who was a queen consort to.....forget now. She went on to marry Owen Tudor. It was the result of this union who became the father of Henry VII, hence the Tudor house.


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Post 39

J'au-æmne

Okay, Crusader, please write me an entry on the royal houses. A whole entry. So's I can get all these people into order...

Joanna (slightly chuffed 'cause she's almost memorised all of the Kings/Queens from Henry VIII to the present day)

(go on, you know you want to...http://www.h2g2.com/A397262)


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Post 40

Demon Drawer

It was Catherine of France the Widow of Henry V who had the liaison with Owen. smiley - smiley


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