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Entry: RMS Titanic - Myths and Mysteries, Facts and Fiction - A87756961
Author: Bluebottle - U43530

An article about the myths and stories that have been built up around the Titanic.

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I think that works well as a stand alone entry, nicely done!

Just a couple of points:

Stating that "A Night to Remember" was the best adaptation is a bit of a personal opinion, but maybe "arguably the best" would do.

Not sure about the nationality of passengers - at that time, Ireland wasn't an independent state, so all those Irish passengers were technically British. Would it be too clumsy to say "from Ireland"? Or would a bit of contextual history help? (Here in Belfast, commemorations of the 100th anniversary of the sinking were followed swiftly by commemomorations of the 100th anniversary of the signing of the Ulster Covenant)

Why was the ship registered at Liverpool?

I think this works well on its own.

As well as exploding a number of myths, it's full of quirky detail. I was intrigued by the 'electric camel', to be found in First Class, while the 'electric vibrator' made my mind boggle!

In the piece on Jospeh Bruce Ismay, it might be worth mentioning who he was.

Just wondering whether these might contain useful information:

Five Titanic myths spread by film - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17515305

Titanic: The final messages from a stricken ship - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17631595

Titanic anniversary: Piecing together story of ship's captain - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-17513240

I guess you might have seen them already, but they may be interesting if not.


Geggs

Good entry, Bluebottle.

Some of your headings seem to be "true" and most "false". Would it be better to put "true" and "false" at the end of each heading?

I'm loathe to point out spelling mistakes, but some might get past even the most eagle-eyed sub-editors, so:

principle port --> principal port

I'm puzzled by the section about Bruce Ismay. Who was he? Just one of the passengers? One of the owners? Why would he have given the captain instructions?

The grammar of this sentence is all wrong, making it unclear what it is saying. Can you sort it out, possibly by splitting into two sentence?

"Of the 113 Irish Third Class passengers, 47 of whom survived, however only 18 of the 118 British passengers and 23 of the 104 Swedish passengers in Third Class survived."

"The Carpathia was 58 miles away" you tell us this twice in two sentences.

HMHS Britannia -- is that really HMHS ?

The film lasts 34 longer than the time -- 34 minutes?

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Thanks all - changes made.

Stating that "A Night to Remember" was the best adaptation is a bit of a personal opinion, but maybe "arguably the best" would do.
But it is the best! I've added 'widely regarded' so as not to upset the fans of 1912's In Nacht und Eis.

Not sure about the nationality of passengers - at that time... all those Irish passengers were technically British.
I've added a footnote to that effect - does this address it, or should more be done?

Why was the ship registered at Liverpool?
Just because between 1867-1907 Liverpool was White Star's home port, before it was realised that Southampton was a much better passenger port due to its proximity to London, closeness to France (where more passengers could be picked up) deeper water channel, larger dry docks and unique double high-tides caused by the proximity of the Isle of Wight which meant even the biggest ships could dock at Southampton at all states of the tide.

In the piece on Jospeh Bruce Ismay, it might be worth mentioning who he was.
More background on Ismay's included.

Just wondering whether these might contain useful information:
Thanks, Geggs - I've added them as reference links too.

"Good entry, Bluebottle." - Gnomon
High praise indeed!

Would it be better to put "true" and "false" at the end of each heading?
Good idea, done now.

principle port --> principal port

The grammar of this sentence is all wrong, making it unclear what it is saying. Can you sort it out, possibly by splitting into two sentence?
Hopefully better now.

"The Carpathia was 58 miles away" you tell us this twice in two sentences.
The fact it was 58 miles away is doubly important, honest Deleted.

HMHS Britannia -- is that really HMHS ?
His Majesty's Hospital Ship - footnote added to explain.

The film lasts 34 longer than the time -- 34 minutes?
Although it feels like 34 lifetimes, it is indeed 34 minutes.

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You'll insult a lot of people if you say the Irish people were British. They were members of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, but that doesn't make them British, any more than it makes you Irish.

Updated. (And it's true - I'm not Irish, I'm from the Isle of Wight).

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>>His service record during the Great War was exemplary He was knighted, becoming a Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire in 1926. He died in Southampton in 1940.<<


You have missed a fullstop after exemplary


It's a great read, BB

I liked it as all one big piece, but I'm OK with it like this. Good work.

Updated.

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Check the spelling of Marconi's first name.

Can you confirm that it is Luttrells Tower rather than Luttrell's Tower?

Spellings corrected.

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