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SashaQ - happysad Started conversation Jun 18, 2016
Entry: 'Antz' - the Film - A87871350
Author: SashaQ - happysad - Editor - U9936370
Here is an Entry inspired by Bluebottle's Ultimate Guide to DreamWorks films
A87871350 - 'Antz' - the Film
bobstafford Posted Jun 18, 2016
When I saw the thread title did think it was another <BB< entry.
Nice work I have never seen the film but you made sound interesting, good entry keep it up.
No suggestions for editing it looks just about right to me, more please.
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Florida Sailor All is well with the world Posted Jun 18, 2016
An interesting entry, I have also not seen the film, only the trailers on TV.
One point of confusion, in the opening you tell us;
> In the film, worker ant Z(1) is wondering about the meaning of life and his place in the colony when he meets Princess Bala
Then later on you say;
>Also, termite workers can be both male and female, but ant workers are all female
Is ant Z male or female?
F S
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SashaQ - happysad Posted Jun 18, 2016
Thanks both
I've expanded the paragraph about the termites and ants, so I hope that clarifies the point - Z is male in the film, but should be female if it is to be true to the life of ants
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coelacanth Posted Jun 19, 2016
This doesn't really explore the political and philosophical themes in Antz. I show the film to my sociology students and point out the hidden banners and slogans, eg "Nothing Satisfies Like Work", "Conquer Idleness" and the very sinister "Freetime is for Training".
Just the first 5 minutes of the film is enough to start a discussion in my lessons. Achieved vs ascribed status; proletariat and bourgeoisie; furthering the interests of the ruling classes; false consciousness - it's all in Antz!
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coelacanth Posted Jun 19, 2016
I forgot about consensus or conflict, structure or action, the social construction of reality etc, all there too, if you look for it. So maybe the entry needs to include these themes.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Jun 20, 2016
Good entry.
On a quick skim, I spotted Guatenemara. Did you mean Guantanamera?
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Bluebottle Posted Jun 20, 2016
I enjoyed reading this – it is always flattering to feel I've inspired someone to write something, even when my original's still in Peer Review
I did know if you wanted to mention what John Lennon's classic song has had its lyrics changed to, though all they are saying is 'Give Z a Chance'
If you enjoyed this film, there are some similarities with 'Bee Movie', especially regarding the insect work ethic.
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SashaQ - happysad Posted Jun 24, 2016
Thanks everyone
Oops - I know the song Guantanamera, but it's one of those where I've only heard the lyrics rather than reading them, so I obviously misheard Changed
Similarly, I couldn't tell what changes had been made to the lyrics of Give Peace a Chance, so I've tweaked that bit too, thanks <BB<
I've rejigged the structure a bit, so there's now a paragraph rather than just a sentence about the politics and philosophy. I hope that's OK for you, coelacanth, but if there's anything else you think I should add, let me know - I've put in an Additional Research credit for you
I have been given a copy of Bee Movie too, so that's ready for me to watch somewhen
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SashaQ - happysad Posted Jun 25, 2016
I'd not heard of false consciousness before reading this thread, but I read it again today, not uncoincidentally... Fascinating...
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coelacanth Posted Jun 29, 2016
There's no need to give me Additional Researcher credit, all I did was list a few concepts that can be found in Antz, but it's possible to watch it without being aware of these themes. I'm glad to have introduced you to false consciousness though!
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SashaQ - happysad Posted Jul 2, 2016
Thanks coelacanth - I've taken the credit out, and just thank you here for helping to make the Entry much richer The film's depth makes it relevant to many real life scenarios indeed...
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Peer Review: A87871350 - 'Antz' - the Film
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- 2: bobstafford (Jun 18, 2016)
- 3: Florida Sailor All is well with the world (Jun 18, 2016)
- 4: SashaQ - happysad (Jun 18, 2016)
- 5: coelacanth (Jun 19, 2016)
- 6: coelacanth (Jun 19, 2016)
- 7: Gnomon - time to move on (Jun 20, 2016)
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