A Conversation for Ask h2g2

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Post 16561

Icy North

Guilty as charged.

Sadly, I cannot trust my fellow man even to press a button properly.

Even if he does press it, it's in the wrong order.

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Post 16562


Ah that's like standing in the road at a bus stop - everyone knowns the bus will arrive sooner if you do that.

Similarly with the button.

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Post 16563


The latest one to annoy me was on a tram. But trains and lifts do it as well.

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Post 16564


Oh yes, bus queues that meander so that everyone can watch out for the bus arriving. Fair enough, there are several different buses (going to opposite destinations) so you need to be sure to get the right one. They all stop there anyway.
But the queue straggles all over the pavement so pedestrians can't get past easily.

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Post 16565

Pink Paisley

And those pedestrians who press the button on pedestrian crossings when there is no real need and then cross at the red man so that when you turn up in your car, the lights are red but there's nobody crossing or waiting to cross.

I'm sure this has been mentioned before.


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Post 16566

Feisor - -0- Generix I made it back - sortof ...

I read somewhere that most of the "Close Door" buttons in lifts (elevators) are not connected. They are only there to let the passengers feel like thay have some control. The lifts continue to operate on their cycles regardless.

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Post 16567

Mr. X ---> "You may be a king or a little street-sweeper, but sooner or later you dance with the Reaper...."

No they don't.

smiley - pirate

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Post 16568

Pink Paisley

Dealing with the likes of TNT or DPD couriers.

I had a bit of a problem today which became so stupidly complicated that I can't be bothered to detail it here (and it is a really dull read).

Easily remedied by better communication and not misleading the recipient about what they can / will or can't / won't do.

Oh, and providing an easily found telephone number to call.

And keeping a note of what was said!

Call 1.
"Do NOT try to re-deliver on Monday. Like YOU I have to go to work. I won't be there.".

Call 2.
"So what now?"
"We'll deliver it on Monday."
"I won't be there Monday. Like YOU, I have to go to work."

I'm going to drive to the depot to collect it after work on Monday. 12 miles away.

(Had this been the Royal Mail I could have picked it up in the centre of my own town, a 5 minute detour, after work).


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Post 16569

Baron Grim

OK... from the HHGttG BBC TV series, I know what a "zebra" crossing is. I get it, stripes. But wth are "pelican" and "toucan" crossings? And why the frequent association with animals to describe various crossings?
smiley - badgersmiley - frogsmiley - blacksheepsmiley - hamstersmiley - mammothsmiley - dragonsmiley - pandasmiley - dolphinsmiley - ponysmiley - sheepsmiley - spidersmiley - shark

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Post 16570


I suppose having started with zebras (fairly reasonable name for black & white stripes) they just carried on:


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Post 16571

Mr. X ---> "You may be a king or a little street-sweeper, but sooner or later you dance with the Reaper...."

But a Toucan isn't black and white.

smiley - pirate

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Post 16572

Cheerful Dragon

Pelican: Strictly speaking it's a pelicON crossing - PEdestrian LIght CONtrolled. Roughly equivalent to the American WALK/DON'T WALK crossings, but with red and green men instead of words.

Toucan: A pelian crossing for pedestrians and cyclists. Two (types of people) can use it. I assume that they exist for situations where there's a cycle path next to a pedestrian path and the local council doesn't want cyclists riding across the road. The crossing has red and green bikes as well as the men.

Puffin: Pedestrian User Friendly crossing. An update to the pelican crossing. This allows a pedestrian to cross as soon as the sensors decide it's safe to stop the traffic. If the pedestrian crosses before the lights have changed, the request to cross is cancelled so that traffic isn't stopped unnecessarily.

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Post 16573

SashaQ - happysad - Editor

Toucan crossings are ones for both pedestrians and cyclists, so two can cross at the same time.

I don't know why there are associations with animals for these things, though. Do people know these days that a pelican crossing is PEdestrian LIght CONtrolled? Do people know which crossings are pelican crossings rather than Pedestrian User Friendly INtelligent ones? How will the smiley - chick cross the road?

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Post 16574

Icy North

Does anyone remember Panda crossings?


The stripe pattern was actually closer to a zebra's stripes.

They didn't catch on:


(I often use that particular crossing - it's a Pelican today)

They were replaced by the X-Ways:


... and then the Pelican.

I think that exhausts most of the fauna-based nomenclature for controlled pedestrian intersection schemes.

Oh, apart from:


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Post 16575

winnoch2 - Better late than never

I have many similar stories I could tell, Mr Paisley. Thing is many couriers now have excellent methods for communicating and ensuring you get your parcel when and where you want, even on the day of delivery. So it can and is being done. Couriers who still operate for their own convenience only, should be boycotted and forced to invest in these new tracking and communication technologies or forced out of business.

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