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Gnomon - time to move on Started conversation Feb 26, 2015
Entry: Sauron, the Dark Lord of Middle-earth - A87849238
Author: Gnomon - U151503
Another Tolkien entry
A87849238 - Sauron, the Dark Lord of Middle-earth
bobstafford Posted Feb 26, 2015
This Entry attempts to provide some of the back story to Sauron.?
Maybe, some of the background story to Sauron.
A87849238 - Sauron, the Dark Lord of Middle-earth
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Feb 26, 2015
I'd say "back story", but Wikipedia says it should be spelled "backstory", and that "background story" is an alternative.
A87849238 - Sauron, the Dark Lord of Middle-earth
bobstafford Posted Feb 26, 2015
Nothing more is heard of Sauron during the First Age. At the end of it, when Melkor was finally defeated, Sauron was offered pardon, but was told that >we< would have to go to Valinor and be judged by the Valar. He decided not to accept the offer and disappeared into the east for a thousand years.
should the above be "he"
A87849238 - Sauron, the Dark Lord of Middle-earth
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Feb 26, 2015
Well spotted bob. I've fixed that, and have changed "back story" to "backstory".
A87849238 - Sauron, the Dark Lord of Middle-earth
bobstafford Posted Feb 26, 2015
and threw it into the molten rock, destroying it,
For the purists perhaps maybe
after a struggle with the creature Gollum it fell into the molten rock, and was destroyed.
This is a big entry that reads so well you don't notice the size thats a sign of good writing
Well done it makes the history of middle earth easily understandable
A87849238 - Sauron, the Dark Lord of Middle-earth
bobstafford Posted Feb 26, 2015
"back story" or "backstory". history just sounds better its just an opinion though not a correction. Glad I could help
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Bluebottle Posted Feb 26, 2015
>Sauron was offered pardon, but was told that >we< would have to go to Valinor and be judged by the Valar. He decided not to accept the offer and disappeared into the east for a thousand years.
should the above be "he"?<
I'm disappointed - I was looking forward to going too and have just finished packing...
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A87849238 - Sauron, the Dark Lord of Middle-earth
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Feb 26, 2015
Did you feel ready to be judged by the Valar, BB?
A87849238 - Sauron, the Dark Lord of Middle-earth
Bluebottle Posted Feb 27, 2015
Well, I did go through a period of claiming to be Bluebottle, one of the Blue Wizards – but that was a few years ago.
It's been a while since I read The Lost & Unfinished Tales so my memory is hazy, but wasn't there an early version in which Sauron was a puddy tat rather than a ?
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A87849238 - Sauron, the Dark Lord of Middle-earth
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Feb 27, 2015
The island of Tol Sirion was occupied by giant cats in that version; the sunned themselves on the terraces of the Elf-built fortress. But I can't remember if Sauron himself turned himself into a pussums.
A87849238 - Sauron, the Dark Lord of Middle-earth
Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Mar 7, 2015
Hi Gnomon
I hope that I'll be able to read all your Middle Earth Entries in Pr, but I can't make any promises.
So... as you seem to describe much about the Valar and Maiar in the first part of this Entry I would also mention that it seems like every Maia belongs to a Vala. You do say that Sauron once belonged to Aule, but the system not clear enough I think. I always found it interesting that Sauron and Saruman both once belonged to the same Vala. ( Coincidence? )
Maybe also mention that the balrogs once were Maiar who got corrupted. Just likes Orks are corrupted Elves, as far as I remember. But maybe that would go too far.
... I have to go shopping now and it seems I have some reading to do. I will come back to this later!
A87849238 - Sauron, the Dark Lord of Middle-earth
Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Mar 10, 2015
ok... I am not quite awake because the baby woke several times this night, but I'll do my best to make further comments...
You give a translation of 'Morgoth' but not of Sauron as far as I saw.
I was about to correct you on the correct plural form of Silmaril, but obviously both Silmarils and Silmarilli are correct, so I won't.
I would not say that the two trees gave light to Valinor, but they were the only light on Arda at that time. This makes their destruction even worse.
Is it too much to mention that sun and moon were created from a fruit and a blossom of the trees?
'In this Entry, I'll give a very brief summary of the events as they concerned Sauron.'
I thought you're not supposed to use 'I' in Entries?
I'd mention that Beleriand was in the west of Middle-Earth, so people can make some kind of geographic connection.
Kazad-dum could need a footnote, saying that it is Moria.
... more from me later
A87849238 - Sauron, the Dark Lord of Middle-earth
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Mar 10, 2015
Thanks for your comments Tav.
I mention that Sauron worked for Aulë but I don't want to go into any more detail because it would mean introducing more Valar and Maiar and that would be confusing.
I already mention the balrog as a Maia.
I certainly don't want to mention orcs as corrupted elves because it's far from clear whether that is true. Tolkien himself didn't seem to have decided.
You're right, I need to give the meaning of Sauron and to give the Sindarin version, Gorthaur, too.
The two trees did light up the whole of Valinor so I won't change that. And it is too much detail to mention where the Sun and Moon came from.
The rule about "I" is not as strict as it was under the BBC. But it looks bad so I'll change it.
I'll add notes on Beleriand and Khazad dum.
But I'm not attempting any edits ony phone so it will have to wait until the weekend.
G
A87849238 - Sauron, the Dark Lord of Middle-earth
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Mar 17, 2015
OK, I've added a new section explaining Sauron's name.
I've added footnotes about Khazad-dum and Beleriand, and have removed the reference to "I".
A87849238 - Sauron, the Dark Lord of Middle-earth
Gnomon - time to move on Posted Dec 8, 2015
This is back in Peer Review at F48874?thread=8315148.
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Peer Review: A87849238 - Sauron, the Dark Lord of Middle-earth
- 1: Gnomon - time to move on (Feb 26, 2015)
- 2: bobstafford (Feb 26, 2015)
- 3: Gnomon - time to move on (Feb 26, 2015)
- 4: bobstafford (Feb 26, 2015)
- 5: Gnomon - time to move on (Feb 26, 2015)
- 6: bobstafford (Feb 26, 2015)
- 7: bobstafford (Feb 26, 2015)
- 8: Bluebottle (Feb 26, 2015)
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- 10: Gnomon - time to move on (Feb 26, 2015)
- 11: Bluebottle (Feb 27, 2015)
- 12: Gnomon - time to move on (Feb 27, 2015)
- 13: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor (Mar 7, 2015)
- 14: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor (Mar 10, 2015)
- 15: Gnomon - time to move on (Mar 10, 2015)
- 16: Gnomon - time to move on (Mar 17, 2015)
- 17: Gnomon - time to move on (Dec 8, 2015)
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