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Subject: A female pharaoh
Posted Sep 3, 2007 by Gnomon is taking a rest
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I like the fact that the expert commenting on a female pharaoh is called Breasted.

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Subject: A female pharaoh
Posted Sep 3, 2007 by BigAl Keeper of the Glowing Pickle and Monobrows
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Yes, I noticed that as well laugh

(Although it's not quite the same thing, there's a word that describes a persons surname as being suitable to their job. 'New Scentist' once went through a phase of publishing many examples of them. When I was working in a Research institute, the safety officer was Dr Death laugh )


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Subject: A female pharaoh
Posted Sep 5, 2007 by FeurTrunken
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i think her name is Hapshepsut.. not Hatshepsup... erm

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Subject: A female pharaoh
Posted Sep 5, 2007 by Gnomon is taking a rest
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She was Hatshepsut until she became a Pharaoh. At that point she changed her name to the male version, Hatshepsup.

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Subject: A female pharaoh
Posted Sep 5, 2007 by FeurTrunken
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really? wow.. cool. so how does that make it a male name

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Subject: A female pharaoh
Posted Sep 5, 2007 by Gnomon is taking a rest
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-t was the female ending in Egyptian, so she had to remove the t from the end and put something else there. It's a bit like someone called "Victoria" changing their name to "Victor".

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Subject: A female pharaoh
Posted Sep 5, 2007 by FeurTrunken
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but nefertari and nefertiti weren't ending in t... unless vowels don't count

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Subject: A female pharaoh
Posted Sep 5, 2007 by BigAl Keeper of the Glowing Pickle and Monobrows
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'... so how does that make it a male name..'

This is what IN said in the Entry:

'Originally named Hatshepsut, meaning 'foremost of the noble ladies',...

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'As a queen taking on full status as a pharaoh she needed additional official appellations and so she became King Maatkara Hatshepsut-Khnemet-Amen. She even eventually dropped the feminine 't' suffix to her name thus becoming, in effect, His Majesty King Maatkara Hatshepsup-Khnemet-Amen ('foremost of the nobles').'



In the case of Nefertiti, if indeed she became pharaoh, she changed her name completely to Smenkhkare. She didn't just change the ending of her name.


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Subject: A female pharaoh
Posted Sep 5, 2007 by Gnomon is taking a rest
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-a is a common ending for modern female names in English, from the Latin feminine ending. So we have Maria, Julia, Brenda and so on. But not all female names end in -a.

In Egyptian, most people with names ending in t were female, so Hatshepsut decided to change her name. Nefertiti had a name which didn't end in t but was still obviously a female name.


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Subject: A female pharaoh
Posted Sep 5, 2007 by FeurTrunken
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this is a very good article indeed.. a bit dissapointing though, coz i for some reason thought she was thin and beautiful..
her temple is surely one of the top sites in egypt..
only one thing. where is the mummy of hapshepsut now? i don't remmember it being in the Egyptian Museum


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Subject: A female pharaoh
Posted Sep 5, 2007 by BigAl Keeper of the Glowing Pickle and Monobrows
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Well, I imagine she is in the Cairo Museium now - but she would only've been there since this year.

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Subject: A female pharaoh
Posted Sep 5, 2007 by BigAl Keeper of the Glowing Pickle and Monobrows
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'...for some reason thought she was thin and beautiful.. '

As I said in the Entry, Hatshepsup described herself as being 'beautiful and blooming'.

It seems to me that few of the Egyptian pharaohs and Queens were as attractive as they were made out to be, and this includes Tutankhamun.


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Subject: A female pharaoh
Posted Sep 5, 2007 by Gnomon is taking a rest
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Hands up who hasn't picked the best photo of themselves to display.

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