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Posted Sep 1, 2006 by Deep Doo Doo | | Post: 1
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Entry: Challenging a Parking Ticket Issued in the UK - A14055518
Author: Ðeep Ðoo Ðoo - U1263973
Having successfully won a lengthy challenge 2 years ago, I've been meaning to do this one for some time. Comments as always, please...
|  | Subject: A14055518 - Challenging a Parking Ticket Issued in the UK
Posted Sep 1, 2006 by  Icy North
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Very well-written article 
I successfully challenged a PCN a couple of weeks ago, and I'm not sure into which of your categories it fits.
I received a PCN from a town where I've never been to before. "Plainly a mistake", I thought, as I returned the PCN, writing on it "plainly a mistake!" in large green crayon.
When they wrote to me again saying they were going to proceed, I rang them. They called up the photo on their computer and asked me, "Is your vehicle a white van?". "No". Is your number plate "AB55 CDE"? "No, it's "AB55 CDF". "Oh", she said, "the PCN's plainly a mistake", and she cancelled it. 
It may be worth mentioning that if you know categorically you weren't parking without a ticket in a particular place at a particular time, as stated on the PCN, then you may be a victim of number plate cloning, and sometimes the vehicle may be identical model to yours. If you're certain that this is the case, then I reckon you should inform the police, and challenge the PCN on that basis. I don't know how successful you would be, though.
 Icy
| | Subject: A14055518 - Challenging a Parking Ticket Issued in the UK
Posted Sep 1, 2006 by Deep Doo Doo
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<<I successfully challenged a PCN a couple of weeks ago, and I'm not sure into which of your categories it fits.>>
Simple! That would be:
4. The alleged parking contravention did not occur.
I've updated that section and included the advice you suggested, Icy.
| | Subject: A14055518 - Challenging a Parking Ticket Issued in the UK
Posted Sep 1, 2006 by Icy North
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Well, the contravention "did" occur, it's just that I wasn't responsible for it - but I agree this is the nearest category in this situation.
Icy
| | Subject: A14055518 - Challenging a Parking Ticket Issued in the UK
Posted Sep 1, 2006 by Tufty
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Good stuff
up-the-anti --> up-the-ante (the ante is the first chip bet in poker, I think)
If the adjudicator finds in the authorities favour --> authorities'
| | Subject: A14055518 - Challenging a Parking Ticket Issued in the UK
Posted Sep 1, 2006 by Deep Doo Doo
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Thanks Alex. I knew anti wasn't right each time I looked at it, but the spellchecker never made a fuss, so I left it...
| | Subject: A14055518 - Challenging a Parking Ticket Issued in the UK
Posted Sep 1, 2006 by U168592
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ahh. Yet another reason I do not (and will not) own a car.
Informative Entry - useful for those in the circumstances I'm sure. Easy to read. 
| | Subject: A14055518 - Challenging a Parking Ticket Issued in the UK
Posted Sep 1, 2006 by Mu Beta
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What do you think about adding Post 2 as a 'One Researcher's story'. A sort of 'and finally...' bit at the end?
B
| | Subject: A14055518 - Challenging a Parking Ticket Issued in the UK
Posted Sep 1, 2006 by Icy North
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I'm not sure DDD's article really needs it, B. I found it boring.
| | Subject: A14055518 - Challenging a Parking Ticket Issued in the UK
Posted Sep 1, 2006 by Deep Doo Doo
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I'm not totally sure about that one MB, although a valid suggestion. I'm sure a number of people have a story to tell - I've got my own:
http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/sear...90&tBrand=ENOnline&tCategory=search
I really just wanted to cover the procedure and get across that it's not that difficult. What does anyone think about including more examples? If it will make the Entry better I'm more than happy.
| | Subject: A14055518 - Challenging a Parking Ticket Issued in the UK
Posted Sep 1, 2006 by Icy North
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 Great story!
| | Subject: A14055518 - Challenging a Parking Ticket Issued in the UK
Posted Sep 2, 2006 by Recumbentman
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Great Entry. I would rather have a link to that story included, than have the entry made longer by recounting personal experiences. The link might go in the relevant paragraph telling what grounds you can appeal on.
| | Subject: A14055518 - Challenging a Parking Ticket Issued in the UK
Posted Sep 2, 2006 by GreyDesk
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Interesting, yes. Well done
My experience is probably not repreentative of the county as a whole, but I've had very good results with Brighton & Hove Council by being a right-royal pain in the arse.
My policy is to appeal everything. I will write immediately after getting a ticket. I will write again after 14 days - the length of time you have to pay the reduced charge - and say that I haven't heard anything from them. When I do hear from them I will write to acknowldege their letter, then write once more to tell them that they are wrong and that hear are the reasons why, etc.
The basic idea is to gum up the office that's dealing with my case with as much extraneous paperwork that in the end they give up and let me off.
In the last five years or so I've recieved I think 8 PCNs in Brighton. One I had a legitimate excuse - I was admitted to hospital; one I had a reasonable excuse in that the road markings were ambiguous - well they were a bit, but not as much as I made out they were; and all of the others I was bang to rights. But I've had *all* of my appeals upheld
| | Subject: A14055518 - Challenging a Parking Ticket Issued in the UK
Posted Sep 2, 2006 by Not him
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 This is a sticky situation
I ride a 'bike. It's almost illegal for me to use a pay and display: where can I display the ticket? It's likely to be stolen, if it doesn't just blow off.
Astonishingly enough, no-one cares about me parking on the pavement next to a pay and display though seems rather strange to me.
please excuse me if i'm incoherent. I'm tired.
| | Subject: A14055518 - Challenging a Parking Ticket Issued in the UK
Posted Sep 3, 2006 by Mu Beta
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"My experience is probably not repreentative of the county as a whole, but I've had very good results with Brighton & Hove Council by being a right-royal pain in the arse.
My policy is to appeal everything."
Hmm... I think the 'pain in the arse' feeling might be mutual.
B
| | Subject: A14055518 - Challenging a Parking Ticket Issued in the UK
Posted Sep 11, 2006 by Deep Doo Doo
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I'm off on my jollies now until 09/10/06. Unfortunately I won't have internet access for most of that time, so I'll not be able to update anything on this Entry.
I'm not ignoring things and I won't have Elvised - I'll just be having fun!
Assuming this is good enough for picking, can it wait until I get back and have attended to any further reviews?
One thing, if you lodge the appeal quickly (i.e. when you would still be eligible for a reduced payment) you should only be required by the adjudcator to pay the reduced payment.
Well done!
One nit-pick:
>>gives you just the ammunition you need and permits you up-the-ante<<
permits you *to* up-the-ante
One question:
In the last two paragraphs of the NPAS section - you describe the postal hearing and the personal hearing. Do you have any suggestions for choosing one over the other?
Very enjoyable to read.
| | Subject: A14055518 - Challenging a Parking Ticket Issued in the UK
Posted Sep 20, 2006 by scorp
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I found this really interesting and very informative DDD. If I can be permitted one typo suggestion though.
Under the main heading NPAS Who are they etc:
After the para ‘This pack is quite a weighty tome’
“The NoA will allow you select the type of hearing you wish to have”
Should that not be ‘allow (you) to select'?
My MD received a parking ticket last year. He had parked in a local authority multi storey to visit the theatre. The offence was not parking totally within the designated lines; he has a Bentley and there wasn't a parking area long enough. He appealed but still ended up paying.
| | Subject: A14055518 - Challenging a Parking Ticket Issued in the UK
Posted Oct 4, 2006 by BMT
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Hi DDD, how are we doing with this then?
ST.
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