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That's the first time I've heard it called an equation!
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Posted Apr 1, 2005 by Alfster
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<I don't think foreplay=oral sex>
Or at keast not just 'downstairs' there are nipples and earlobes and necks and and and.
Also, massage and finger tips etc etc etc.
And if you are that way inclined a damn sexy dance can get things going as well.
And, for a bloke especially, being a bloody good cook also helps.
whoohooo now i defo need a bloke like that
| | Subject: My penis and I - what do women think of penises?
Posted Apr 2, 2005 by Alfster
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<whoohooo now i defo need a bloke like that>
(Raises hands. Jumps up and down. Licks his own ear-lobes with his tongue. ).
Alfster - someones perve in squeaky rubber.
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wow youv'e such a long tongue Alfster,i'm sure it impresses a lot of the girls..
| | Subject: My penis and I - what do women think of penises?
Posted Apr 2, 2005 by Mrs Zen
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One of my stalkers suggested I take another look at this after abandoning it in despair a couple of days ago, so here I am.
<resubscribes/>
Was it cutiechops who asked whether or not they were the only person who disliked foreplay?
I doubt very much that you are alone in that, given the richness and variety of human sexual response and experience, however it is desperately desperately sad that you don't like it. As has already been mentioned, you obviously haven't yet had the 'right' partner.
Did you know that women can have three kinds of orgasm? - Clitoral, vaginal and cervical, (which goes a long way towards explaining why it's worth keeping yourself ski-fit for sex). Tab A is only going to hit the spot with two of them, and it seems a shame to miss even a third of the pleasure.
I dislike the word 'fore-' in 'foreplay' - it implies that it is a mere aperitif. It amuses me sometimes, in a compassionate way of course, to consider all those Christians who 'save' themselves for their wedding nights by getting really *really* good at non-penetrative sex and then find that it is - er - not as good as what they have been doing for - gosh - months, really.
Isn't the term 'non-penetrative sex' better? Channel 4, oddly enough for such a right on PC tv station, had a trailer for a programme about 18 months ago featuring a man who looked like a perverted German teddy-bear saying in a deep voice: "Lesbians... what DO they do?"
My stepson thought this was hilarious, but obviously had no clue of the answer. Bless...
Willies - over-rated in my opinion, but fun to play with nevertheless.
Ben
Yeah Ben it was moi that said i didn't like foreplay...</whispers> just the icky licky part,on me,down there,<whispers>
i just think i get and have been very self consious more-so since i had my child,nah saying that it was years before that too,i think it stems from the fact that ive been prodded and poked..(oooerrr missus..),at the doctors/gyne far too many times over the years,and sex used to be an ordeal for me,as it used to hurt like hell..aswell though saying that i didn't like having sex with the person i was with for 12years either,so i used to put off having sex all together or for as long as possible..
But now ive got the problem of being single,and wanting sex all the time...but do i get !!! well not enough anyway ..so maybe when i find someone that i'm comfortable with i'll try it out,and you'll all be glad to know ,i'll tell you all first.. though this could take a while,
everything else sex-wise i'm spot on
| | Subject: My penis and I - what do women think of penises?
Posted Apr 2, 2005 by Mrs Zen
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When I'd posted my post, I wanted to retract the comment about meeting the 'right' person.
What a horrible series of events to go through, cutiechops.
I guess we all have hang-ups about whether or not we are attractive - fortunately for me my most recent two main squeezes have been totally besotted, to the extent that I am concluding that lust really does damage the vision! But they have given me a lot of confidence.
Have you seen or read the Vagina Monologues, cutiechops? I think it is in the VM that a woman describes going to bed with someone who spends ages looking at her vagina, telling her how beautiful it is, and obviously meaning it. (It might not be, I've read a lot of clit-lit in my time). I'd recommend the Vagina Monologues to anyone wondering if there is such a thing as a universal experience of sex. I'd also recommend Nancy Friday for similar reasons.
Personally I think too much is said about sex, and not enough about sexual spaces. For me sex is about the dynamic & the engergy between two people, which is one of the reasons why sex is different with different partners of course.
I've also been meaning to say that the best lovers I have had have been the ones who got their penises out of the metaphorical way and acknowledged, in very practical terms, that it takes women longer to get 'there', but that it is worth it for both partners when they do. It is one of the things that mean that older men tend to be better lovers - for a start they usually have the stamina, and then they are more likely to know what to do with it.
Ben
just found this thread
Penises sometimes feel nice when you're in the mood, but to look at i find them really 
i know that makes me cringe at the thought of someones head being down there(points downwards to front bits) ,and them looking up and alls they see is a botched up cecarian scar and loads of stretchmarks,,,eeee what a turn off eh!!!..though like i said when i find someone i can feel comfortable with,i'm sure i'll be okay then...and especially when i find a bloke who's good at what they do,and not one that makes me think.."pull me nighty down when youv'e finnished",or "is that it"or "is it in yet"
Ive heard,and watch something about The Vaginal Monologue..tho it was a while back..
Anyway i'll just stick with me Rampant Rabbit for now ,personally i think every woman should have one,they should be free on the nhs,and i think they should advertise them on news at 10.. ..
Actually I don't really see the point of pricks anymore - with the variety and artistry of dildos available, cocks are and boring; they're all the same! 
| | Subject: My penis and I - what do women think of penises?
Posted Apr 2, 2005 by Mrs Zen
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Well, I've never found penises to be all the same when you get up close and personal with them - anything but, to be honest.
CutieChops, have you had a good look at yourself? There was a fashion in the late 1970s and early 1980s for women to look at themselves in mirrors, preferably in groups of up to a dozen, sharing their sisterhood and exploring their sexuality in a really caring and - uh - liberating way. (I do *miss* that kind of loony feminism ). And there is a lot to be said for having sex in the half-light - better to use candles for what they were designed for, I guess.
You two have made me conclude that my friend R is right when she says that vibrators are made for women who don't like penetrative penile sex. I loathe them myself.
Ben
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Posted Apr 2, 2005 by Serephina
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i found the rabbit a bit crap 
i know how you feel Em,i can be self concious,ive gt tubby,had ababy so stretch marks,an episiotomy scar,etc..how anyone can look at me n not go yuck i dont know!but my last 2 boyfriends have been a little younger than me n just ed!maybe it 'is' true that once a chaps decided he wants to sleep with you he doesnt care whats under your clothes..
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I think to have really great sex there has to be an understanding between the two partners about how is best for both partners and importantly, limits. Personally I hate it when I have "been" but my partner has not and vice versa. It all feels unfinished.
I don't know why people get embarressed by sex. Ok there is the baby making element but it is fun and also tightens the bond between 2 people. How is that wrong. We had a "happy clappy" christian Physics teacher (obviously didn't know too much about physics) and he got everyone together on a camping holiday to tell us all that masterbation was evil and god would judge us. My Mum went ape shit when I told her and had a go at him! Not that I hate christians but I do hate people who enforce their beliefs on other people. I therefore hate organised religon. People can do or believe in what they want as long as it is not forced on other people or hurts people.(Whoops! Tangent!)
Back to penises! Ladies, girls women etc etc. Look after your penis because it will look after you with a lot of love and attention. Us blokes are ruled by them! We can't get up on a monday morning thanks to morning glory, our minds think about sex every few seconds. Be firm! Don't let your bloke take control in the bedroom. We don't know what to do if we are not told! Be spontaneous! Be brave! (oh yeah, and remember AIDS, STDS etc. I am passionate about being careful! (Is the pope dead yet? Hurry up.)).
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Posted Apr 2, 2005 by Ged42
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I noticed a few women talk about, how they think their various scars and stretch marks must be a turn off.
To be honest i never really noticed them and was never paticularly phased by them when i did.
Possibly because my mind was more focused on other parts of her anatomy.
We all have scars.
Some of us show them on the outside.
RF
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Posted Apr 2, 2005 by Serephina
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I too have stretch marks that i got through the wonders of pregnancy. They are (luckily, i'm told) small & hardly visible, but to me the point is...they are there!! They don't bother me to tell you the truth when me & my fella are having sex, they bother me more when i'm out & about & i'm wondering if people can see them between the gap between my jeans & top. I guess that means I'm comfortable with my boyfriend seeing my body as i know he's not with me for the perfectness of it!!! Its other peoples judgement i fear!!
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Posted Apr 2, 2005 by Serephina
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small n hardly visible?lucky you..8 years on i still look like freddy's had a pop at me!he was well over 9lbs though n i was pretty slim then so had to stretch!
Well over 9lbs?? My munchkins were only 6 14 & 1/2 and 6 12 & 1/2! My youngest is only 11mth, so i'm hoping the stretch marks will fade a bit more yet!!!
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