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Posted Oct 8, 2001 by Martin Harper
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Obviously the details sent by email and the details posted on site should be identical - might be worth making this explicit.
The 'final decision' version, by contrast, ought to be reasonably extensive, I feel - you'll have had a week to think about it, so I think this is reasonable. Also might mention extenuating circumstances which were considered and judged not extenuating enough.
Also worth including would be a link to the 'Suspension of Researcher X's h2g2 Account' page. I feel that you should allow the researcher to provide a forwarding email and/or website address (provided both obey the house rules) if they desire so that people can continue to get in touch.
I'm more divided on whether allowing the banned researcher to leave a final message would be worthwhile. It would be a nice courtesy, but I can see that it could be abused. (and offensive parting shots would of course be in breach of the house rules). Perhaps something to make available at the discretion (ick) of the editors?
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| | | Subject: [insert more details of why this breaks the rules here]
Posted Oct 9, 2001 by  The H2G2 Editors
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 | | "Obviously the details sent by email and the details posted on site should be identical - might be worth making this explicit."
Done!
"The 'final decision' version, by contrast, ought to be reasonably extensive, I feel - you'll have had a week to think about it, so I think this is reasonable. Also might mention extenuating circumstances which were considered and judged not extenuating enough."
In cases with much discussion, this is true, so we've added a line "[Insert details of the Editors' reasoning here, if applicable]" to the final decision text. In some cases, like kiddie porn, this won't be required, but in most cases you're right, we'd put this in and it would be relatively comprehensive.
"Also worth including would be a link to the 'Suspension of Researcher X's h2g2 Account' page. I feel that you should allow the researcher to provide a forwarding email and/or website address (provided both obey the house rules) if they desire so that people can continue to get in touch."
OK, that's a good idea, and ideally it would go on the Researcher's Personal Space once they are banned. However, currently the Personal Space is hidden purely as a consequence of the way the system bans people. We're looking into sorting the system out, but until then we will have to stick to hiding pages (though we'll check this technically)... but we can put the contact details on the decision page as a starter (which we've added to the process).
We don't much like the idea of a final message, though. A contact address is perfectly acceptable.
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| | | Subject: [insert more details of why this breaks the rules here]
Posted Oct 9, 2001 by Martin Harper
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| | Well, I can imagine the case where the banned researcher accepts that they made a mistake, apologises, and says a brief goodbye to hir friends on h2g2, and an invitation to email. In which case, including that final message might help to close the matter - people are unlikely to contest a decision if the person it effects the most has accepted it... also, allowing the banned researcher to say goodbye properly will make them less likely to try and gatecrash back onto h2g2. In many cases it may be unhelpful, but having the option there can't hurt, I reckon.
Thanks for the other changes - as you say, hopefully the procedure will never be needed, but there's no harm in having a safety net... 
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