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| | | Subject: Lies and the lying liars who tell them.
Posted Jan 14, 2008 by sudamalu
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<<Or maybe that was just a wee little fib about your lawyer saying that? Maybe that was just a presumption of yours?>>
It's curious to me that you have yet to learn that personal abuse if not a legitimate debating tactic."
Having looked back at some of your previous posts, it is curious to ME how you can characterise that overly mild remark - when you were caught outright lying again - as personal abuse. If anyone ought to know what constitutes personal abuse, it's you.
And by the way, why is it ok for you to quote your lawyer making the claim that judges don't believe people making an affirmation but wrong for another researcher to check that with a judge and report back?
In any case, I thought you might be interested in this link:
http://www.thejakartapost.com/Archi...rchivesDet2.asp?FileID=20071106.E04
I think those are sentiments shared by a lot more people than one would suspect.
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| | | Subject: Blithering bullying badgers and the bludgeons they use to beat their victims
Posted Jan 14, 2008 by  DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me!
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| | <<<<True Della, but if you dont like it why keep using it?>>
Against my better judgement, I am answering you, Hooray Henry, because I have a need to educate. (I am a teacher after all...) I doubt you're celver enough to understand, but I believe no one is a hopeless case...
<<Arent Christians supposed to turn the other cheek, avoid things they know are bad and do unto other as they would have other do unto them?>>
As I've tried to tell Effers, that doesn't mean being a doormat. As a woman, she should appreciate that point.
<<Liar you are of the social class that mixes with judges and lawyers, well you are if you are working class like me, I know one judge, several JPs and more lawyers.>>
Blickster, you may have started off working class! (Although I doubt it...) But I've heard somewhere on h2g2 just exactly *why* you're so well acquainted with the law! 
The rest of your posting was incomprehensible, to put it mildly. You really shouldn't post when tired and emotional...
Vicky
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| | | Subject: Lies and the lying liars who tell them.
Posted Jan 14, 2008 by DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me!
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| | For the umpteenth time. I don't tell lies. I won't name those who do, for fear of banning (again - these people have clout! ) but I don't tell lies.
Occasionally I make mistakes. I don't tell lies. If I say it any more often, I'll be modded for spamming. (That was the first I ever knew that *one post*, which consciously copied the style of one by a protected person, what's more!) could be 'declared spam' and that asking for clarification could result in a tonne of bitching and a banning threat!
Yeah, h2g2 is such a lovely place! Frankly, it reminds me of the twilit purgatory in C S Lewis 'The Great Divorce', everyone hates everyone else, and is trying to get one over on them.)
Infinitely sad..
VL
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| | | Subject: To the poor victimised poster
Posted Jan 15, 2008 by eloisa
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| | Not getting in to all of the above as I never join a fight without working out who's ankles it's safe to bite and I really don't think there's enough time in my working day to figure out what this's all about!
Also completely lost my grip on the whole god thing.
I do, however, want a spellchecker please, that'd be 
I love having an opinion!
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| | | Subject: I'm gonna raise a mass theological debate here: God; fact, or fiction
Posted Jan 15, 2008 by Ragged Dragon
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| | Math quoth
In law, the reason we make an oath is twofold:
1. To make it clear that what we then state in evidence is declared as being truth.
2. To bring home to the witness that theya re expected to tell the truth.
In both cases this then implies that the witness understands that they are expected to tell the truth and that they have no excuse for perjury.
Beyond this... To many people, especially in the pagan community, the taking of an oath is a sacred thing. To break an oath is to offend both the Gods and the community and is considered one of the most serious crimes - on a par with rape and murder.
An oathbreaker is then marked forever as such. All respect and honour is lost, kinship forsworn, debts to the oathbreaker levelled, land and property forfeited to the community.
As you can see perjury carried such a price that few would risk it.
These days lies and deceit are commonplace and the rewards far outweigh the risks. Liars are even feted - such as Jeffrey Archer, Tony Blair and GWB.
This is why I do not trust Christians. Any religion that states as a clear tenet that you must not give your oath has no honour.
Blessings,
Matholwch <o>
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This is central to heathenry as well.
Hi folks, I'm back - there was a burglary at my home on Christmas morning, and I am only just back online.
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Jez
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