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Posted May 3, 2012 by Online Now
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Entry: RMS Titanic - Myths and Mysteries, Facts and Fiction - A87756961
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An article about the myths and stories that have been built up around the Titanic.

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Subject: A87756961 - RMS Titanic - Myths and Mysteries, Facts and Fiction
Posted May 3, 2012 by Online Now
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I think that works well as a stand alone entry, nicely done!

Just a couple of points:

Stating that "A Night to Remember" was the best adaptation is a bit of a personal opinion, but maybe "arguably the best" would do.

Not sure about the nationality of passengers - at that time, Ireland wasn't an independent state, so all those Irish passengers were technically British. Would it be too clumsy to say "from Ireland"? Or would a bit of contextual history help? (Here in Belfast, commemorations of the 100th anniversary of the sinking were followed swiftly by commemomorations of the 100th anniversary of the signing of the Ulster Covenant)

Why was the ship registered at Liverpool?

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Subject: A87756961 - RMS Titanic - Myths and Mysteries, Facts and Fiction
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I think this works well on its own. smiley

As well as exploding a number of myths, it's full of quirky detail. I was intrigued by the 'electric camel', to be found in First Class, while the 'electric vibrator' made my mind boggle! blush

In the piece on Jospeh Bruce Ismay, it might be worth mentioning who he was.

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Subject: A87756961 - RMS Titanic - Myths and Mysteries, Facts and Fiction
Posted May 3, 2012 by Online Now
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Just wondering whether these might contain useful information:

Five Titanic myths spread by film - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17515305

Titanic: The final messages from a stricken ship - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17631595

Titanic anniversary: Piecing together story of ship's captain - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-17513240

I guess you might have seen them already, but they may be interesting if not.


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Subject: A87756961 - RMS Titanic - Myths and Mysteries, Facts and Fiction
Posted May 3, 2012 by Online Now
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Good entry, Bluebottle.

Some of your headings seem to be "true" and most "false". Would it be better to put "true" and "false" at the end of each heading?

I'm loathe to point out spelling mistakes, but some might get past even the most eagle-eyed sub-editors, so:

principle port --> principal port

I'm puzzled by the section about Bruce Ismay. Who was he? Just one of the passengers? One of the owners? Why would he have given the captain instructions?

The grammar of this sentence is all wrong, making it unclear what it is saying. Can you sort it out, possibly by splitting into two sentence?

"Of the 113 Irish Third Class passengers, 47 of whom survived, however only 18 of the 118 British passengers and 23 of the 104 Swedish passengers in Third Class survived."

"The Carpathia was 58 miles away" you tell us this twice in two sentences.

HMHS Britannia -- is that really HMHS ?

The film lasts 34 longer than the time -- 34 minutes?

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Subject: A87756961 - RMS Titanic - Myths and Mysteries, Facts and Fiction
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Hello

Thanks all - changes made.

mod Stating that "A Night to Remember" was the best adaptation is a bit of a personal opinion, but maybe "arguably the best" would do.
orib But it is the best! I've added 'widely regarded' so as not to upset the fans of 1912's In Nacht und Eis.

mod Not sure about the nationality of passengers - at that time... all those Irish passengers were technically British.
orib I've added a footnote to that effect - does this address it, or should more be done?

mod Why was the ship registered at Liverpool?
orib Just because between 1867-1907 Liverpool was White Star's home port, before it was realised that Southampton was a much better passenger port due to its proximity to London, closeness to France (where more passengers could be picked up) deeper water channel, larger dry docks and unique double high-tides caused by the proximity of the Isle of Wight which meant even the biggest ships could dock at Southampton at all states of the tide.

mod In the piece on Jospeh Bruce Ismay, it might be worth mentioning who he was.
orib More background on Ismay's included.

mod Just wondering whether these might contain useful information:
ok Thanks, Geggs - I've added them as reference links too.

mod "Good entry, Bluebottle." - Gnomon
ok High praise indeed!

mod Would it be better to put "true" and "false" at the end of each heading?
orib Good idea, done now.

orib principle port --> principal port

mod The grammar of this sentence is all wrong, making it unclear what it is saying. Can you sort it out, possibly by splitting into two sentence?
orib Hopefully better now.

mod "The Carpathia was 58 miles away" you tell us this twice in two sentences.
orib The fact it was 58 miles away is doubly important, honest winkeye Deleted.

mod HMHS Britannia -- is that really HMHS ?
orib His Majesty's Hospital Ship - footnote added to explain.

mod The film lasts 34 longer than the time -- 34 minutes?
orib Although it feels like 34 lifetimes, it is indeed 34 minutes.

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Subject: A87756961 - RMS Titanic - Myths and Mysteries, Facts and Fiction
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You'll insult a lot of people if you say the Irish people were British. They were members of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, but that doesn't make them British, any more than it makes you Irish.

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Subject: A87756961 - RMS Titanic - Myths and Mysteries, Facts and Fiction
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Updated. (And it's true - I'm not Irish, I'm from the Isle of Wight).

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Subject: A87756961 - RMS Titanic - Myths and Mysteries, Facts and Fiction
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>>His service record during the Great War was exemplary He was knighted, becoming a Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire in 1926. He died in Southampton in 1940.<<


You have missed a fullstop after exemplary smiley


It's a great read, BB ok

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Subject: A87756961 - RMS Titanic - Myths and Mysteries, Facts and Fiction
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I liked it as all one big piece, but I'm OK with it like this. Good work.

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Subject: A87756961 - RMS Titanic - Myths and Mysteries, Facts and Fiction
Posted May 4, 2012 by Online Now
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Updated.

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Subject: A87756961 - RMS Titanic - Myths and Mysteries, Facts and Fiction
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Check the spelling of Marconi's first name.

Can you confirm that it is Luttrells Tower rather than Luttrell's Tower?

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Subject: A87756961 - RMS Titanic - Myths and Mysteries, Facts and Fiction
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Spellings corrected.

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