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| | | Subject: In this mad mad whirled
Posted Feb 1, 2012 by  ~ jwf ~
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An essential element of being comfortable
in the skin of a human-being is the sense of
control. Control over things, machines, our-
selves, our environment, etc.
But in this mad mad whirled this basic level
of comfort is constantly stressed by events
beyond our control. Madness lies in wait.
Happily, or not, we have the internet, the brave
new whirled of cyberspace where we can create
a sense of control with a little click here,
a little click there.
But what happens when we realise that it is an
illusion? Feel free to comment before letting
yourself fully imagine such a possibility. The
idea will grow on you.
Don't be afraid to admit that your dependence on
this self-deluding, habituated behaviour allows,
or insists, that you are happy to be in control
of at least this much of your reality.
Hey, if a simple fire was good enough for our
ancestors as they sat in frozen caves trying not
to think about bears and large predatory cats
then surely cyberspace can be justified as a
legitimate self-illuminating and warming
safe-space.
Yes? No?
  
~jwf~
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| | | Subject: In this mad mad whirled
Posted Feb 1, 2012 by Rod
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Basically, squigs - yes.
About as safe as that cave and fire was. As long, that is, as you keep yer wits about ye.
I'm told there are beasties out there in cyberspace, too.
Certainly there are unfriendly spirits inside this here machine, gleefully testing and noting that I'm losing me blerry grip slowly but ever so surely.
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| | | Subject: In this mad mad whirled
Posted Feb 1, 2012 by Edward the Bonobo - Gone.
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| | In '23 Things They Don't Tell You About Capitalism', Ha-Joon Chang tells us that washing machines may have changed the world more than teh interwebs.
Washing machines have freed up domestic servants and housewives so that they can enter the workforce as relatively cheap labour. The time previously devoted to laundry can now be used for production. This has increased growth. Similarly, villages in the developing world there might be great benefits if local water supplies freed up the two hours a day often spent fetching water.
With teh interwebs...we don't know. We *suspect* there have been some productive benefits - but it's not at all clear how radical these have been compared to previous technologies such as telegraphs and phones which cut the time for a message to cross the Atlantic from two weeks to a couple of minutes. However - 'we have all of the data short of any actual numbers'. Certainly the advent of teh interwebs has not delivered a peak in productivity.
We might want to think of this when investing in development. Does Africa need one laptop per child or one washing machine per family?
We've got lolcats, though. Maybe the lolcats have eaten into the productivity gains. Om nom nom.
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| | | Subject: In this mad mad whirled
Posted Feb 1, 2012 by Edward the Bonobo - Gone.
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| | The way children are educated about teh interwebs is interesting. There's been a realisation that the genie is out of the bottle. Even with relatively young children, you can't completely supervise them. So you have to teach them 'You may accidentally come across something you don't like. Don't worry. Tell someone about it.' That's what I've taught my children.
But I dis have to institute a 'no downloading without checking' policy for a while after a machine got clogged up with all sorts of crappy adware.
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| | | Subject: In this mad mad whirled
Posted Feb 1, 2012 by ~ jwf ~
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It seems my question may have been too imprecisely phrased.
Responses have wandered off into a discussion of the known
dangers lurking in cyberspace. I meant only the personal space
of leaning over a warmly lit keyboard and the power that sits
at one's fingertips. The control and mastery of my environs.
Like our hairy ancestors casually tossing a few sticks on
the fire, I can click and stir the embers and create my own
level of light and warmth and ignore all that exists beyond
the glow of my 'personal' computer. By eliminating all other
facts and factors from my consciousness I can delude myself
into thinking I am in control of my own little cosmos.
The word I was looking for perhaps is 'escapism' but in the
manner of the ostrich. Or the dolphin with a mirror wall in
his tank. This glowing screen is all the warmth and light I
need to keep my cave cozy and the monsters at bay.
~jwf~
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| | | Subject: In this mad mad whirled
Posted Feb 1, 2012 by Researcher 173821
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| | "By eliminating all other facts and factors from my consciousness I can delude myself into thinking I am in control of my own little cosmos"
Just made me think of addiction. Blot out the problems, focus in, control my environment by shrinking it.
Also elements of the Total Perspective Vortex. We all screen something out to get on with our days. We all consign somethings and some people to 'other'. One could probably make a case for it being most things/people when you think about it.
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| | | Subject: In this mad mad whirled
Posted Feb 1, 2012 by ~ jwf ~
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>> How do you cope when you go outside your cave for a pee?
What happens when you have to go and hunt breakfast? <<
Oh I cope very well in the real whirled.
But I'm trying to keep the discussion focused on
the interface between the self and the electronic
camp-fire. Does it not give us a sense of power and
control to move about in cyberspace with a single click
of the mouse? To choose the environments we visit and
inhabit? To choose the people we engage with or ignore?
With some discriminating choices we can avoid anything
that offends or frightens us and keep our view fixed on
the things we like and enjoy. We can shape our experience
to our own desires and pleasures, like keeping a good fire
burning while exchanging stories with those we choose to
share our mammoth meat.
~jwf~
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| | | Subject: In this mad mad whirled
Posted Feb 1, 2012 by Rudest Elf
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"we have the internet, the brave
new whirled of cyberspace where we can create
a sense of control with a little click"
One may have a *sense* of control, but that little click makes you vulnerable to uninvited, invisible and destructive pests... and it's likely to get worse.
We cannot always choose with whom we engage. They engage with us, without our knowledge, usually to our detriment.
  
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| | | Subject: In this mad mad whirled
Posted Feb 2, 2012 by Rod
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| | ~jwf~ (post 18) :
>>Oh I cope very well in the real whirled.
But I'm trying to keep the discussion focused on
the interface... ...
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Oh I didn't doubt your coping, any more than my own. With the real world, that is.
The interface itself is fairly easily covered - and has been.
My feelings about >>a sense of power and control ...<<
are simply that I can attend or turn my back without feeling embarrassed or being concerned about others' feelings (not to a great extent anyway).
On the other hand, if I send an amusing(?) message, a meaningful one or an insult, so can you lot (and you do, hey hay).
In a discussion, if I leave this pseudo-cave for a pee or breakfast, sleep or other reason, it has often moved on past reasonable response time - and not forgetting the post 21 syndrome, either.
So there are everyday type hazards, as well as the cyber-type, which can take on rather more significance than they might actually be worth in RL.
That was what my aim was in my above items. Significance is in the eye of the ificant and not all comment can be put lightly down.
... if I took a week, I might put it better - but hey, it's just a post.
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