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This is the Conversation Forum for Ask h2g2 << What are you optimistic about? Norton 360 >> Subject: Lord of the Rings: What did Tolkien mean? Posted Jun 4, 2004 by GreyDesk This is a reply to this Posting   Posting 981 Now that this thread has finally quietened down a bit, and also whilst I've got the opportunity of having this comment at the top of new a blob. Can I please play devil's advocate and address the original question with the reply, "who the f**k cares." You folks simply wouldn't believe how long I've been wanting to say that Read the First Reply to this Posting Subject: Lord of the Rings: What did Tolkien mean? Posted Jun 4, 2004 by DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! This is a reply to this Posting   Posting 982 <<who the f**k cares." >> Oh, I say... I thought it was an important question, given that the films differ a lot on some respects... Read the First Reply to this Posting Subject: Lord of the Rings: What did Tolkien mean? Posted Jun 4, 2004 by Bistroist This is a reply to this Posting   Posting 983 GD, the question of who has the sadder life, us, for keeping this discussion going for so long without getting anywhere at all, or you, for patiently keeping up with it for all this time in order to be able to launch your snide remarks at exactly the right time, is probably one it is best not to investigate further... cheers ~Bistro Read the First Reply to this Posting Subject: Lord of the Rings: What did Tolkien mean? Posted Jun 4, 2004 by Dark Side of the Goon This is a reply to this Posting   Posting 984 Ah... It's a good question, but it misses the point. It is not the destination that we look forward to but the journey. Sometimes it is better to travel than arrive. Read the First Reply to this Posting Subject: Lord of the Rings: What did Tolkien mean? Posted Jun 4, 2004 by Sho - It's Mrs G to you! This is a reply to this Posting   Posting 985 eh? Read the First Reply to this Posting Subject: Lord of the Rings: What did Tolkien mean? Posted Jun 7, 2004 by Bistroist This is a reply to this Posting   Posting 986 Those of you who haven't yet, may want to check Luthienas entry on LotR, A2697249, currently in PR, F48874?thread=429601 cheers ~Bistro Read the First Reply to this Posting Subject: Lord of the Rings: What did Tolkien mean? Posted Jun 8, 2004 by DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! This is a reply to this Posting   Posting 987 I'll check it out, a.s.a.p, Bistroist - thanks! We just watched RotK again on the weekend - awesome! Read the First Reply to this Posting Subject: Lord of the Rings: What did Tolkien mean? Posted Jul 5, 2004 by StrontiumDog This is a reply to this Posting   Posting 988 Is the gradual demise of this thread related to our own discomfort with how JRRT can speak to the child within us. I am reminded of CS Lewis's intro to the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe, are we not old enough yet to return to fairy tales, and is that why the Jibe 'who the F@*# cares?' stings so much that the tread can be quiet for 3 weeks? Read the First Reply to this Posting Subject: Lord of the Rings: What did Tolkien mean? Posted Jul 5, 2004 by Sho - It's Mrs G to you! This is a reply to this Posting   Posting 989 who woke the thread up? eh? speak up.... Subject: Lord of the Rings: What did Tolkien mean? Posted Jul 5, 2004 by BouncyBitInTheMiddle This is a reply to this Posting   Posting 990 I think you're overanalysing. Myself I ran out of things to say ages ago, I suspect similar has happened. Read the First Reply to this Posting Subject: Lord of the Rings: What did Tolkien mean? Posted Jul 5, 2004 by Sho - It's Mrs G to you! This is a reply to this Posting   Posting 991 or we're all sharpening our pencils to start a massive convo on the Silmarillion entry which was on the front page today Read the First Reply to this Posting Subject: Lord of the Rings: What did Tolkien mean? Posted Jul 6, 2004 by StrontiumDog This is a reply to this Posting   Posting 992 Over analysis Well prehaps, but then it is a large part of my job to analyse things. The title 'What did Tolkien Mean?' becomes a bit restrictive though don't you think. To me the desire to talk about JRRT is actually greater than my wish to undrstand what he wrote or why I like it. It just leaves me in awe, the landscapes the stories Gandalf is a great creation, but so is the Ring ect ect.... Prehaps that makes me sad but there you go. Read the First Reply to this Posting Subject: Lord of the Rings: What did Tolkien mean? Posted Jul 6, 2004 by Recumbentman This is a reply to this Posting   Posting 993 This is suffering the same fate as the "God - Fact or Fiction" thread <goes back to pick up the link, spots Strontium Dog and Adelaide Cat at it like . . . cats & dogs> which I joined very soon after landing here (Nov 2002). I answered the question repeatedly, to my own perfect satisfaction, but no one seemed to take a blind bit of notice, and there you are still debating it almost two years on. This thread's question was answered about six months ago ("to supply the lack of an English mythology") by I've forgotten who, and the answer is buried in the middle of a thread that just would not die. Humph. <unsubscribes> See if I care. And catch me reading the Silmarillion? I've much more important things to do, like . . . em . . . Read the First Reply to this Posting Subject: Lord of the Rings: What did Tolkien mean? Posted Jul 6, 2004 by Recumbentman This is a reply to this Posting   Posting 994 G - F or F? is F55607?thread=192835 <really unsubscribes> Read the First Reply to this Posting Subject: Lord of the Rings: What did Tolkien mean? Posted Jul 6, 2004 by Asmodai Dark (The Eternal Builder, servant of Howard, Crom, and Beans) This is a reply to this Posting   Posting 995 So what was the answer then? Did Tolkien mean anything, or was it an expression of what he wanted to write (as ive heard said) *wonders whether by doing this he can make the thread hit the 1000 post mark* Read the First Reply to this Posting Subject: Lord of the Rings: What did Tolkien mean? Posted Jul 6, 2004 by [...] This is a reply to this Posting   Posting 996 He didn't mean anything. Tolkien writes in the foreward of The Fellowship of the Ring that it doesn't mean anything. Read the First Reply to this Posting Subject: Lord of the Rings: What did Tolkien mean? Posted Jul 6, 2004 by Sho - It's Mrs G to you! This is a reply to this Posting   Posting 997 Well, maybe Tolkien didn't actually mean anything, or think he meant anything - that's not to say that it doesn't mean anything. So, in honour of the great h2g2 thread topic drift we've moved on to bigger and better things (including the filmed versions of LOTR) so that we can just carry on the convo. There. In the meantime, a more interesting thread might be: LOTR: what does it mean to you? Read the First Reply to this Posting Subject: Lord of the Rings: What did Tolkien mean? Posted Jul 6, 2004 by [...] This is a reply to this Posting   Posting 998 How can you say its got a meaning if the author has said it has no meaning? Read the First Reply to this Posting Subject: Lord of the Rings: What did Tolkien mean? Posted Jul 6, 2004 by Sho - It's Mrs G to you! This is a reply to this Posting   Posting 999 Quite easily, watch this: LOTR has plenty of meaning. Allegory abounds in that big fat book I love so much. It's a story of personal development, the rise of the industrial age, how one person - however small - really can make a difference... I'm one of those bad people who doesn't always listen to what writers say about what they wrote. I prefer to find my own meaning. Which means that, really, I should stay out of this thread. But talk of is always so much fun. Read the First Reply to this Posting Subject: Lord of the Rings: What did Tolkien mean? Posted Jul 6, 2004 by Sho - It's Mrs G to you! This is a reply to this Posting   Posting 1000 oh and we got 1,000 posts let's start the circular conversation all over again... << < Conversation list << < Conversation list

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