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| | | Subject: Lets parlez franglais
Posted Jan 22, 2003 by kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website
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  | | bonjour tout les posteurs 
i've just read through the last couple of pages and wonder if i can offer these thoughts as someone from outside the thread ?
my understanding of the house rule against foreign language is not that its not ok to use foreign words per se, but that if conversations are going on in another language that the mods don't know then, they can't moderate for things like flaming, abuse, defamation etc.
even though some have said that anyone could figure out the meaning of all franglais postings i am not so sure. if you don't know any french and you are not in europe then franglais is actually a foreign language for many people.
i'm in nz. there are many common maori words in use here. how many can translate this - kia ora bro, can you tell me your whakapapa ? i'm off to the hangi after this hui. that korero about tino rangatira tanga was ka pai. my tane is bringing the kai moana. his wahine did the waiata at the powhiri today. ka kite ano.
a lot of kiwis would be able to figure this out. i bet the mods don't though.
as far as the moderations already done, the mods should have or will email the researcher who has been moderated and let them know what they have been moderated for. it actually hasn't been stated in this tread yet, the specific reason (though there is a lot of guessing naturally). anyone who has been yikesed could post the reason here, then it would be very clear what is going on.
one thing i am not clear about - if someone uses the yikes button, does the post disappear immediately, or does a mod have to respond and go to the post and remove it manually ?
and is >all< moderation reactive, or are the mods still reading some of the threads themselves (its not clear from their page).
anyway having said all that., i must say that this is a very funny and hootoo-ish thread and long may it live 
(and maybe sticking to more english than french as Terri suggested would be a good idea.)
bonne chance
kea.
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| | | Subject: Lets parlez franglais
Posted Jan 22, 2003 by Ellen
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| | The fact that some posts are moderated and some are not depends I think on whether the moderator can follow it or not. If they understand enough of the French to make it out, they leave it (I think). But if the don't, it's out. That is a change from the old policy, which was no foreign posts whatsoever, whether they could figure it out or not. I have no idea whether they will go back through this whole thread and moderate stuff or not. I'm guessing they probably will. I think whoever yikesed this thread was overreacting, it's pretty harmless, but I agree with some of your points Kea. If they allow one foreign language to be posted, they have to allow all of them, and they can't hire moderators that speak all languages.
Whew, this is no fun, talking about such dull stuff. *Goes looking for some more silliness*
JE 
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| | | Subject: Lets parlez franglais
Posted Jan 22, 2003 by The Thinker
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| | Does anyone concorde (agree) with me on my points of views in the previous postings that there is alot of French used in our everyday language (apart from Franglais) either through direct usage or by words that have a root/base in the French language there are so many (in earlier years when I was bored I used to spend my time reading the dictionary to find out where certain words had their derivations from), I will put a few examples below chosen at random from my Oxford WordFinder dictionary:
Grippe archaic or colloq. French - gripper seize.
Lawn Old French Launde.
Mal der mer (Poirot's favourite expression) sickness of the sea.
deja vu F already seen
There are so many examples I could spend hours just picking up words that either French derivations (there are lots of them - remember we have a strong Norman influence to our language) as well as Franglais and the other few French phrases I have described aabove.
JA
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| | | Subject: Lets parlez franglais
Posted Jan 22, 2003 by  The H2G2 Editors
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| | We'd like to clarify a few things.
It was *us* who referred the Postings, not another Researcher. We do have a Moderator who speaks French, and the next time she is able to, she will check the Postings and reinstate them if they are okay. We tried to pick out a random selection, rather than refer all of them. Apologies to anyone who feels that they have been singled out, this was not our intention.
The House Rules haven't changed now that we have reactive Moderation, and Postings in non-English languages still carry the risk of being referred, wherever they are posted.
Remember that all the other DNA sites do not allow non-English Postings at all, and they are removed for good immediately they are found. We avoid this total ban because h2g2 has a history of allowing Researchers to post in other languages pre-BBC.
Posting more English than French, and/or Posting a translation will help us to continute avoiding this total ban.
We hope this helps.
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| | | Subject: Lets parlez franglais
Posted Jan 22, 2003 by Spiff
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Salutations, all the mundane people, 
I had been active in my lecture of this these days here, and Sacred Blue!  it's all gone to morsels! 
Hi Editors,
hi habitual frangleueses, frangleurs, <gallic_hand-shakes_and_cheek-pecking>
So we've been outlaws all this time, eh?
Well, i'd always figured we rested comprehensible, but evidently i had wrong.
But is it veritable that this was mainly at the cause of some arbitrary aggressive posts some time yesterday that created a rucus and drew the moderators attention herewards?
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Do we stand accused, and asked to cease and desisit? Or just warned to keep it real?
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Sky, my brother
spiff
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